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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    This is true. I'm so sick of telemarketers calling me.
    Client informational databases is a lucrative market. That's why governments within the last decade have slapped together privacy acts, for the purposes of disclosure to the public. But when people who value privacy are dumb enough to give away private information via social networking sites, they're going to get screwed.

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    there is no point in trying to get the gov't to take action against data miners, for one simple reason: all the gov't has to do is subpoena data from the miners, so they can know anything about anyone whom they consider a threat, while still pretending that the constitution is alive and well, and protective of liberty. (big brother, by proxy)
    The miners themselves are simple capitalists. They don't care about your personal life, only that access to it may be profitable. They don't even need to know your name to know where you live, your age, what your income is, what care you drive, what your sex life is like, what medical conditions you have - all that by simply following you from site to site...

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    Well, the only practical solution is to avoid the internet.

    You can't purge people of their nature. The kernel of the problem lies not in the decrease in privacy, but the inability to distinguish between one activity and another.

    For instance, if Morgan Le Fay was a porn star, would any of you jump to the conclusion that her pornographic activities would carry over into typoc?

    If your governor smoked weed, would he smoke weed in office? Would he even push pro-legalization or decriminalization politics?

    If a pharmaceutical intern licked people's anuses, does that mean he's going to categorize your pills inside of his anus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Client informational databases is a lucrative market. That's why governments within the last decade have slapped together privacy acts, for the purposes of disclosure to the public. But when people who value privacy are dumb enough to give away private information via social networking sites, they're going to get screwed.
    People don't understand the information that they are giving away. They don't deserve to get screwed. Did you read the Google Buzz article? Did you know about Google Buzz publishing details of everyone you regularly talk to by default. This is in breach of existing legislation. This is stuff they're doing intentionally. Let alone the countless occasions when they genuinely fuck up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    For instance, if Morgan Le Fay was a porn star, would any of you jump to the conclusion that her pornographic activities would carry over into typoc?
    You're mixing me up with someone else whose name starts with mmmmm.
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    I do not care about the death of privacy. Frankly, I think it is the lack of enough information that really causes the harm in our society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    I do not care about the death of privacy. Frankly, I think it is the lack of enough information that really causes the harm in our society.
    That's a profoundly careless statement.
    Do you understand how it makes you vulnerable? You don't care about identity theft, for example? Why don't you just publish details of your all credit cards?

    'Lack of enough information' is a meaningless phrase. Most people are drowning in information. They just lack knowledge.
    But, anyway, that's not what we're concerned with here.
    Or, more accurately, not concerned with.
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    I'm a big fan of privacy. I can be very open with people if I feel comfortable, and I'm not super tight-lipped about every little thing. But generally speaking, yes, leave me the hell alone. It's one of the reasons why I've always thought being famous would be painful - I really don't know how famous people stand all the invasions of their privacy, I'd have to be committed to an institution.

    Maybe that's what's really wrong with Britney Spears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    Frankly, I think it is the lack of enough information that really causes the harm in our society.
    I think you might be onto something here, perhaps two things; more of the right information and the proper use of it might ensure a better society rather than worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    That's a profoundly careless statement.
    Do you understand how it makes you vulnerable? You don't care about identity theft, for example? Why don't you just publish details of your all credit cards?

    'Lack of enough information' is a meaningless phrase. Most people are drowning in information. They just lack knowledge.
    But, anyway, that's not what we're concerned with here.
    Or, more accurately, not concerned with.
    If things weren't so private those individuals who sought to steal from me would be caught before they could make a single purchase, does this not make sense to you?

    Lack of enough information is absolutely not a meaningless phrase, it has to do with not having enough information to know something sufficiently so as to understand it.

    As for information not being knowledge, well that is just absurd. What you're doing there is making a distinction between what is useful information and what isn't.

    At the heart of concerns over privacy is the potential for an imbalance of privacy. The reason credit card theft is an issue is because those individuals can have knowledge of me without the authorities having knowledge of their activities. We live in a world where more knowledge can equate to more power, and so we seek to limit the knowledge of others while maximizing our own knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    People don't understand the information that they are giving away. They don't deserve to get screwed. Did you read the Google Buzz article? Did you know about Google Buzz publishing details of everyone you regularly talk to by default. This is in breach of existing legislation. This is stuff they're doing intentionally. Let alone the countless occasions when they genuinely fuck up.
    I agree with Google Buzz being a breach of existing privacy acts. There should have been voluntary joining or consent to join, rather than a non-consent requirement. I can't imagine how many people ignored the initial roll out and ended up having their privacy breached by default.

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