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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Well that was useful. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what's so amusing. I know and have known many individuals who've done this and not gotten addicted. I've also known some individuals who've gotten addicted but the percentage is tenfold less.

    It is an addicting substance. But addiction isn't just physiological.

    If people want to be self-destructive with no real impact on society as a whole, why would anyone want to control what they do? As long as they're adults, it's their life to lead. Governmental nannyism is such a waste of taxpayer dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    You're wrong again.



    Oh alright, you wait until you've got someone turned into a Narco-Zombi before you screw with their rights. OK. See how its done now.
    What is a Narco-Zombi?

    Oh no, I understand you're position fine, its some place between dangerously naive and complicit, in any case I reckon you're compromised as a thinker because of ideological blinkers. You'll no doubt turn that around and sugges tits me that's got the blinkers.
    Of course I'm going to suggest it's you. There is data that supports my position. You have no data, only fear mongering.

    Well, that's alright, when it comes to the extremist wing of capitalism I tend to believe all the talks done, just waiting for the shooting war to begin.
    This has nothing to do with capitalism.

    BTW I'm suggesting we make libertarians into cat food because I like Dogs.
    Okay.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Well that was useful. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what's so amusing. I know and have known many individuals who've done this and not gotten addicted. I've also known some individuals who've gotten addicted but the percentage is tenfold less.

    It is an addicting substance. But addiction isn't just physiological.

    If people want to be self-destructive with no real impact on society as a whole, why would anyone want to control what they do? As long as they're adults, it's their life to lead. Governmental nannyism is such a waste of taxpayer dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    What is a Narco-Zombi?
    What do you think it is?

    Of course I'm going to suggest it's you. There is data that supports my position. You have no data, only fear mongering.


    Yeah, yeah.

    I hate drug pushers and I'd like to kill them and their dependents, we dont live in the world of libertarian fantasy where policing drugs is all about kill joys getting their kicks from control freakery, in the real world people with addictions have a terrible impact on others, from the random stranger to their neighbours, families or those more closely networked with them.

    All this abstraction and dream works are tedious nonsense.

    This has nothing to do with capitalism.
    Holy shit, yeah! I see, all that international trafficking in drugs is about having a good time! Its on principle and there's no precentages involved! How'd I not see that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    *walks away in disgust*

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Because you and ajblaise (more ajblaise, to be fair) can be pretty damn kneejerk in such matters.
    Really, I'd say me an AJ are rather different people, and I think he'd say the same. And while I'm aware that people can have a blind spot in regards to their own character, I say that if I'm knee-jerk, then this forum is nearly devoid of anyone who's deliberate.

    And anyhow, regardless of my character or AJ's, the responses of particular people to a source of information does not indicate the merit of that source of information.

    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Which is because of your bias, not theirs.
    It's not that simple. It's possible to formulate a bias against something based on detecting a history of bias on the part of that thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    What is a Narco-Zombi?
    I don't know, but I'm going to start using that word a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    *walks away in disgust*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I don't know, but I'm going to start using that word a lot.
    Not all libertarians are narco-zombis but you can kill them the same way as you kill a narco-zombi, they are not as difficult to kill as regular zombis but shooting them all in the head probably is best defence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    What do you think it is?
    Don't know, don't care. Tell me why I should care.



    Yeah, yeah.

    I hate drug pushers and I'd like to kill them and their dependents, we dont live in the world of libertarian fantasy where policing drugs is all about kill joys getting their kicks from control freakery, in the real world people with addictions have a terrible impact on others, from the random stranger to their neighbours, families or those more closely networked with them.

    All this abstraction and dream works are tedious nonsense.
    Yet, drug prohibition doesn't stop anyone from becoming addicted to drugs. Drugs are readily available to anyone who wants them.

    The negative impact on others is exaggerated (part of the fear mongering). The negative impact is also exacerbated by the current system.

    Holy shit, yeah! I see, all that international trafficking in drugs is about having a good time! Its on principle and there's no precentages involved! How'd I not see that?

    Just because there is money involved does not mean someone who supports drug legalization is some sort of "extreme capitalist". All drug production and distribution could be handled by the government, and that could still be an improvement on the current situation. Would you say that's also "extreme capitalism"? No, only an idiot would try to argue that's anything but socialism.

    The economic system is irrelevant.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Don't know, don't care. Tell me why I should care.
    I would suggest to you that if you didnt care you wouldnt have posted, think about it.

    Yet, drug prohibition doesn't stop anyone from becoming addicted to drugs. Drugs are readily available to anyone who wants them.

    The negative impact on others is exaggerated (part of the fear mongering). The negative impact is also exacerbated by the current system.
    If you're going to talk bollocks I'm going to stop listening.

    Just because there is money involved does not mean someone who supports drug legalization is some sort of "extreme capitalist". All drug production and distribution could be handled by the government, and that could still be an improvement on the current situation. Would you say that's also "extreme capitalism"? No, only an idiot would try to argue that's anything but socialism.

    The economic system is irrelevant.
    OK you're talking bollocks, supposing that socialism is nothing more than state ownership is complete bullshit, it means that the US has been socialist since shortly after the New Deal and is presently a shinning example of socialism for the world.

    The reality is that getting people hooked on drugs and then exploiting their addiction to your profit is capitalist, its about maximising revenue. Its no accident that most arguments about prohibition are either made by users or pushers, it's percentages or habits talking, its not principles.

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