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    Quote Originally Posted by r.a View Post
    yeah and democrats are a bunch of half-wit hippies and republicans are a bunch of half-wit christian fundamentalists.
    Actually this stereotype pretty much goes one way. To the Right. With a nice grain of truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Actually this stereotype pretty much goes one way. To the Right. With a nice grain of truth.
    Heh. Man, do you ever get tired of being wrong? A lot of the reason this whole "tea party" movement exists in the first place is because of liberal republicans. I WISH Christian fundamentalists were in charge of the party, but they're clearly not. The last two nominees for president were George W. Bush and John McCain. Not Alan Keyes and Mike Huckabee.


    Anyway, I've admired Christine O'Donnell for a long time. I used to see her on talk shows back in the 90's where she would be the token conservative on a panel full of people ridiculing her beliefs constantly, and she always maintained her poise and grace and stood up for her beliefs without wavering. It was awesome to see, and I'm glad she's finally in a position to possibly win an election. It would be fantastic to see her make it to the Senate.
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    Call me bias.. but anyone who thinks I'm crippling the battle readiness of my team can shove it.

    I didn't like, however, how much they were hammering her on her witchcraft dabbling. I thought that was cruel and unfair. How many teens play with Ouija boards? How many teens hang out with people that do occult things? It's just sorta expected that teens will run into it, become curious and think it's cool, then bore of it when they realize it's not all magic and potions and more an actual religion.

    I think, more importantly, that that hammering still shows a lot of "OMG WITCH BURN HER!!" mentality. I thought we did away with things like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r.a View Post
    yeah and democrats are a bunch of half-wit hippies and republicans are a bunch of half-wit christian fundamentalists.

    remarks like this are tiresome and ignorant.

    yawn.
    Ignorant?

    I said it reinforces the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    Heh. Man, do you ever get tired of being wrong? A lot of the reason this whole "tea party" movement exists in the first place is because of liberal republicans. I WISH Christian fundamentalists were in charge of the party, but they're clearly not. The last two nominees for president were George W. Bush and John McCain. Not Alan Keyes and Mike Huckabee.
    Republicans haven't been "liberal". Bush's administration was authoritarian, and Christian fundamentalists would be even more authoritarian than Bush if they were in power.

    People like you are the reason people like me (former Republicans) will probably vote for Obama in 2012.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Republicans haven't been "liberal". Bush's administration was authoritarian, and Christian fundamentalists would be even more authoritarian than Bush if they were in power.

    People like you are the reason people like me (former Republicans) will probably vote for Obama in 2012.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Republicans haven't been "liberal". Bush's administration was authoritarian, and Christian fundamentalists would be even more authoritarian than Bush if they were in power.
    Some yes, some no. Believe it or not, evangelical Christians are not all in lock-step on all issues. They unite on issues like abortion, but there are plenty of differences on economic and foreign policy issues.

    People like you are the reason people like me (former Republicans) will probably vote for Obama in 2012.
    There you go again with the "people like you" crap. I'm just me, don't do that idiotic groupthink BS again. You know nothing about me, so take your assumptions and shove them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    Call me bias.. but anyone who thinks I'm crippling the battle readiness of my team can shove it.
    I think her view is a bit more nuanced than that now. Keep in mind in political campaigns that every little thing they ever said publically gets pulled up out of context. I'm sure I could find some things you've said that you wouldn't exactly want to represent you to the public, but opposing campaigns, with the aid of the sensationalist media, love to drum up drama whenever possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    Some yes, some no. Believe it or not, evangelical Christians are not all in lock-step on all issues. They unite on issues like abortion, but there are plenty of differences on economic and foreign policy issues.
    Right, they would have heated debates over whether to heavily tax things like pornography or to outlaw them outright. Gay marriage and abortion would be outlawed in seconds if your friends were in power. The Mexican border would become a militarized zone. The US would become even more outspoken in support of Israel. And the Russians would be demonized because those god-hating commies are up to something, they always are.

    There you go again with the "people like you" crap. I'm just me, don't do that idiotic groupthink BS again. You know nothing about me, so take your assumptions and shove them.
    I know you support anti-intellectuals like Palin and O'Donnell. That tells me a enough about your political persuasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Right, they would have heated debates over whether to heavily tax things like pornography or to outlaw them outright. Gay marriage and abortion would be outlawed in seconds if your friends were in power. The Mexican border would become a militarized zone. The US would become even more outspoken in support of Israel. And the Russians would be demonized because those god-hating commies are up to something, they always are.
    This kind of scare-tactic rhetoric not only doesn't achieve anything, but it continues to prove that YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

    "Gay marriage and abortion would be outlawed in seconds"??? First of all, "gay marriage" is an oxymoron by the already established federal definition of marriage. It's sad that we even needed a federal definition of marriage, because it's one of those "duh" things that even kindergarteners could tell you, but one was finally officially provided by the Defense of Marriage Act that was signed into law by...a right-wing fundamentalist?? No! By Democrat President Bill Clinton! So, there is no possible way that a theoretical Evil Christian Party could "outlaw gay marriage" when there already IS NO SUCH THING TO OUTLAW. As for abortion, the supreme court has a little something to say about the subject, which is why when the Republicans controlled the presidency and both houses of Congress, abortion was not outlawed, and even if such a bill had passed, it would still have likely been struck down almost immediately by the courts, and take several years for a monumental Roe vs Wade type decision to be reached.

    So, on those two subjects alone you prove either your complete ignorance, or just your insistence on using ridiculous assertions as rhetoric for the sake of argument. The sad thing is, that idiots believe your kind of assanine assertions and vote accordingly, continuing to make me wish we had election tests that people had to take to prove they have a bloomin clue about anything related to government before they're allowed to vote.

    I know you support anti-intellectuals like Palin and O'Donnell. That tells me a enough about your political persuasion.
    Fine, continuing to be narrow-minded and failing to actually learn or engage someone in a discussion is certainly your right, but it's sad that you'd rather just make me a instead of actually discussing issues. It's possible we might actually agree on more than we disagree on, but we can't get to that because you'd rather just demonize groups and jump to conclusions about everything. If your kind of rhetoric represents "intellectual" then I am PROUD to be "anti-intellectual", though I'd term it as "Anti-pompous arrogant ignorant ass" instead.
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