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    Sometimes liberals have no respect for freedom of speech. Besides, the Reverend Wright's prodigy is not a prick-- he's an asshole.

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    He thinks he called him a prick? Since when can you not check your sent mail?

    It seems highly unlikely that there wasn't at least one or more threats in the email. The White House gets email all the time...some good, some bad. The FBI doesn't send the local police to check out everyone who sends an insulting email to the President.

    I would like to see a copy of the email before saying that his freedom of speech was infringed on.
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    Let's face it, some liberal political appointee overreached himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    FOXNews.com - British Teen Banned From U.S. for Life After Sending Obscene E-Mail to Obama

    What were we saying about Islamics having to take the rough with the smooth? Shouldn't the big pres be doing likewise?
    He can't, Xander.
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    The bureaucrats run the politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    I have no clue, but I assumed he was.



    Something about Obama being terrible at free throws. (No clue.)
    It is generally a good idea to have a clue before speaking.

    You were making the point that his freedom of speech hasn't been restricted since he's still able to speak, just from somewhere else. Amirite?
    No. I asked how it was restricted.
    Whether or not it happened, you're making a point and using some logic. Unless I'm misunderstanding, but I don't think I am.
    You should identify the logic in the question correctly before you jump in to argue over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterk View Post
    Let's face it, some liberal political appointee overreached himself.
    Do you have a name?
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by INA View Post
    It is generally a good idea to have a clue before speaking.
    I just realized, when you said

    Quote Originally Posted by INA, prior post View Post
    yes.
    To my question

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid, prior post View Post
    I assumed you meant that deporting someone didn't affect their freedom to speak, just the location from which they spoke, am I wrong?
    You meant "yes I was wrong," rather than "correct." Fair enough.

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    Actions have consequences that affect the actor, after all. Whether the effect is a deprivation is another matter. I imagine my calling a dude a gutless reactionary would affect my relations with him such that I am not "free" to call him this and expect to be invited to his condiment party. . . In much the same way I'm not free to talk about this nifty bomb I have while boarding a plane and expect to walk on.
    But when you speak of restricting, you speak of limiting the guy's right to do something he had a right to do in the first place. I am yet to see anything that suggests that yet. Thus my question.
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    You have the right to say what you like. You also have the right to suffer the consequences.
    I am an ENTJ. I hate political correctness but love smart people ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by IlyaK1986 View Post
    You have the right to say what you like. You also have the right to suffer the consequences.
    Best point in thread.

    I dont know how this thread became an excuse for bashing liberals though, perhaps the US is becoming as polarised as Magic's other thread suggests.

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