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    Default Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

    The link between Mind and Social / Environmental-Issues.

    The fast-paced, consumerist lifestyle of Industrial Society is causing exponential rise in psychological problems besides destroying the environment. All issues are interlinked. Our Minds cannot be peaceful when attention-spans are down to nanoseconds, microseconds and milliseconds. Our Minds cannot be peaceful if we destroy Nature.

    The first rule of sustainability is - destroy less.

    The fewer things we make the more sustainable we are.

    A society that destroys ecosystems for "consumer goods" in addition to food, clothing and shelter is the least sustainable - and will exist for the shortest duration.

    Industrial society has destroyed necessary things [animals, trees, air, water and land] for making unnecessary things [consumer goods].

    In "Industrial Society" work turns into overwork, unnecessary work, destructive work.


    "Growth Rate" - "Economy Rate" - "GDP"
    These are figures of "Ecocide".
    These are figures of "crimes against Nature".
    These are figures of "destruction of Ecosystems".
    These are figures of "Insanity, Abnormality and Criminality".

    Infinite growth and development on a small planet that is just 40,000 km in circumference? - Industrial Society is insane.



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    While I agree that industrial society is damaging to the ecosystem and all of its inhabitants perhaps, rather than seeking a way to destroy it (a task that is extremely difficult to accomplish not to mention could result in destructive consequences for the well being of humanity) we should try to implement a way to have industrial society increase, preserve and recreate the ecosystem. We could focus technological process towards building artifical environments that don't negatively interefere with the ecosystem but rather improve it (eco-cities come to mind) or construct organization solely dedicated to creating technology that function with the environment (like a company that designs more energy effecinet housing or tools). In doing so we could reform the industrial society into something better for the ecosystem while simultaneously increasing the well being of our mental health.

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    Yeah, we are in deep shit. I agree that these two things are linked and would gladly take away mathematics from school schedules in order to make room for some sort of "healthy mind" classes. The thing is they can't do anything like that because a healthy mind isn't hooked on consumerism. Thus, a large percentage of healthy minds would collapse the system which would lead to most of the population dying.

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    You believe medieval society was healthy for the Mind? Hours of back-breaking labor for no salary (because most of your harvest would be seized by the local landlord)?

    While I agree that industrial society is damaging to the ecosystem and all of its inhabitants perhaps, rather than seeking a way to destroy it (a task that is extremely difficult to accomplish not to mention could result in destructive consequences for the well being of humanity) we should try to implement a way to have industrial society increase, preserve and recreate the ecosystem. We could focus technological process towards building artifical environments that don't negatively interefere with the ecosystem but rather improve it (eco-cities come to mind) or construct organization solely dedicated to creating technology that function with the environment (like a company that designs more energy effecinet housing or tools). In doing so we could reform the industrial society into something better for the ecosystem while simultaneously increasing the well being of our mental health.
    Yep. Which is what many western countries are tying to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    You believe medieval society was healthy for the Mind?
    Criticizing the way things are now doesn't mean that we should turn back time. We should get to a situation where not much more than food and other basics is produced. That is not turning back time, there would still be the social inventions and many other "invisible" things we have found during the past few centuries. Of course, it might look medieval from the material point of view.

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    Humans are nature... our supercolonies are just (arguably) more intricate than most other organisms'. You can't say we're destroying the environment if the consequences of industrialization include a net gain in the turnover of energy, food, water, etc. which, I would strongly assert, has already occurred. This turnover will continue to accelerate in a relatively predictable fashion.

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    meh, fuck nature.
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    Originally posted by Beargryllz
    Humans are nature... our supercolonies are just (arguably) more intricate than most other organisms'. You can't say we're destroying the environment if the consequences of industrialization include a net gain in the turnover of energy, food, water, etc. which, I would strongly assert, has already occurred. This turnover will continue to accelerate in a relatively predictable fashion.
    Humans are a mere part of nature, we are dependent on other aspects of the ecosystem for survival. And although we produce a lot of food, energy, and water it only serves to aid us, there is little that we are contributing to the ecosystem other than excess waste and destruction.

    Originally posted by Aleksei
    meh, fuck nature.
    What an articulate and thoughtful opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Brain View Post
    Humans are a mere part of nature, we are dependent on other aspects of the ecosystem for survival. And although we produce a lot of food, energy, and water it only serves to aid us, there is little that we are contributing to the ecosystem other than excess waste and destruction.
    A mere part yes, but even by biomass ALONE humans are tremendously influential. I fail to see how humans aren't contributing to the world ecosystem. Our tremendous selection pressure on this ecosystem by itself is phenomenally important. You see waste, but in reality, this is just a niche that remains unfilled by yet another consumer. Just because we make waste, don't assume that anything on this planet is "wasted", because short of launching a rocket into the sun, the earth contains the same raw materials today that it had 4 billion years ago, we just make use of more energy now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    Criticizing the way things are now doesn't mean that we should turn back time. We should get to a situation where not much more than food and other basics is produced.
    Why? Why would that be optimal?
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