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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Everyone is so damn hung up on CRIMINAL'S RIGHTS.

    Instead, as a society we should be more concerned about VICTIM'S RIGHTS.
    Why do you believe it's an either/or scenario? Would you have this same opinion if you were wrongly convicted of a sex crime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Why do you believe it's an either/or scenario? Would you have this same opinion if you were wrongly convicted of a sex crime?
    Well put. Most of what I believe to be wrong ways to look at justice tend to simplify what are intrinsically complicated issues. Sure, killing someone resolves a problem in the short term, but for long term success the system has to make sense and be self-critical too.

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    No. The person mentioned in the OP didn't just pursue a relationship with a child, he was actually a child pornographer, which is so much worse. It wasn't just someone helplessly having impulses toward children - it was someone actively working to exploit and harm them for cash. Fuck that guy. Seriously.

    Rapists and child molesters deserve what they get, I'm sorry.

    On the other hand, I do think they need therapy, though, so in that aspect I am torn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    I believe that everyone should be treated humanely, including those who need to be humanely executed.
    I like this idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    I believe that everyone should be treated humanely, including those who need to be humanely executed.
    This.
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    I think those who let their anger convince them that this man's experiences were justified are failing to see the forest for the trees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I think those who let their anger convince them that this man's experiences were justified are failing to see the forest for the trees.
    I've always felt that people need to be made to feel the gravity of what they've done wrong. It's not unusual for child rapists to be murdered by other inmates, even if the guards aren't involved. I think it's a human instinct.

    I don't think all human instincts are bad. While I do feel that there are too many people in prison for the wrong reasons, some people absolutely fucking belong there. Some people also need to be put to sleep like sick animals because they will always be a detriment to society, no matter what. Those are extreme cases, of course.

    It would be interesting to gauge whether women feel more strongly about this issue than men. A hunch tells me they might, just because of biological instincts to protect children.

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    No one seems to be wanting to answer - if they deserve to be treated inhumanely, whose duty is it?

    I wish we had a stonecasting-like experiment to see who would be the people to be cruel to these criminals in the same ways they were to their victims.


    Whoever thinks these acts are ever justifiable needs help and probably has a rotten heart themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    No one seems to be wanting to answer - if they deserve to be treated inhumanely, whose duty is it?

    I wish we had a stonecasting-like experiment to see who would be the people to be cruel to these criminals in the same ways they were to their victims.


    Whoever thinks these acts are ever justifiable needs help and probably has a rotten heart themselves.
    All people who believe in vengeance "need help"? That's a subjective moral opinion, not an objective psychiatric fact. Just know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I think those who let their anger convince them that this man's experiences were justified are failing to see the forest for the trees.
    Civil rights apply to all, not just those who are deemed worthy.

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