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    ¡MI TORTA! Amethyst's Avatar
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    Default Is America going down the crapper?

    As some people may have noticed, the US isn't doing that great at a number of levels.

    Financially, we're in loads of debt. National debt has hit up to 11 trillion dollars, our per capita debt is the highest out of any other developed nation, and according to the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), we also have the highest disparity of income and one of the most unequal societies out of all the developed nations.


    Healthcare is sub-par compared to other developed nations, we are the only developed country that does not have paid childcare following birth, and the insurance companies are corrupt. Pluralism is at a downfall, as it appears that more people seem ignorant about a citizen's right to their freedoms given by the Bill of Rights. But, maybe that's an ignorance thing, or just the fact that you can't please everyone.


    I could list loads more of what's wrong, but many of you probably already know.

    It could be just a rut, or it could be we're falling behind. Way behind. Maybe we'll be able to pull ourselves out of this mess, but it seems like we won't seeing how several people are just playing the blame game on Obama or something else instead of trying to make things better, but can that even be done if elected politicians are corrupted by wealthy companies who want to keep things the way they are?

    I want to hear your opinions. Are we going down the crapper? Are we already in it? Any ideas to save the country from a downward spiral?
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    America is a crapper.
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    There are multiple outcomes from here, of course.

    If the Republicans take control of the legislature and then the oval office, I'd say we're pretty much guaranteed to go down the crapper, unless something radical happened in resposnse (and it would have to be the good kind of radical, which hardly exists).

    The problem is that America's situation looks like a Gordion knot to me. I don't know which end to pull from. In theory, vastly improved education would really help, also so would media with higher standards. Why don't we have that, though? Most likely due to the overwhelming corporate influence in this country. But I don't know how to fight that in any measured way, and that's the really disturbing problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    America is a crapper.
    I kind of like that. Very strong imagery, there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post


    America is a crapper.
    Haha, that explains it.

    We should just invade Canada...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tawanda View Post
    Haha, that explains it.

    We should just invade Canada...
    We tried that, and it sucked, remember?

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    In a way, it is going down the crapper... in other ways, it isn't. We all need better administration...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post

    The problem is that America's situation looks like a Gordion knot to me. I don't know which end to pull from. In theory, vastly improved education would really help, also so would media with higher standards. Why don't we have that, though? Most likely due to the overwhelming corporate influence in this country. But I don't know how to fight that in any measured way, and that's the really disturbing problem.

    My expectations are low.
    I feel like that is our biggest flaw, the corporate control.
    I wouldn't call it a monopoly, but more of...say, 'Dark ages of Capitalism'.

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    If we talk about capitalism, it is bound to be destroyed by its own hands, someday the multimillionaires will have it all, and the others who don't will make a revolution. The revolution wins and creates a better order that isn't as flawed as capitalism itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tawanda View Post
    I feel like that is our biggest flaw, the corporate control.
    I wouldn't call it a monopoly, but more of...say, 'Dark ages of Capitalism'.
    Well, it's oligopoly, not monopoly. And if it approaches the dark ages, it is because there is an air of feudalism.
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