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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Well, here's hoping it doesnt become an obsticle to law enforcement, you know, trying to apply law in an imperfect world is going to fall short of the perfectionist views of most of the public.

    Also wouldnt want to see trial by media replace trial by jury.
    ...and here's hoping that you never have a personal experience that causes you to revise that perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Explain please.
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    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pBV4Bt1ULI"]Cops Beat Man Talking On Phone Then Falsify Records[/YOUTUBE]

    They definatly need videotaping

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    even though my answer resounds a firm "no" to the original question, i see what they are worried about here: misrepresentation of by-the-book and proper conduct through video editing and internet distribution. If I get 15 minutes worth of footage of a cop doing whatever, if i play certain key segments OUT OF THE CONTEXT of the WHOLE situation that led to the officer's actions, I can make even the most straight-edge, good natured cop appear to be belligerent. Any joe blow can edit video footage and misrepresent the officer's actions. You don't need to be a slight-of-hand magician to do that, either. That's the problem.


    So this issue isn't about protecting the bad cops and covering up their abuses. This is about protecting the truly GOOD cops out there from appearing bad regardless of the situation, making it pragmatically impossible to field a core of GOOD officers out there and keep them on streets.

    I don't think it should be illegal, but there has to be a better way of getting shitty cops off the streets while keeping the good ones on the street, because the latter is just as important as (and tantamount to) the former. Just my 2c.

    And just FYI, the cop in this story IS a shitty cop, no doubt about it. you do NOT do anything like that, and IN AN UNMARKED CAR of all things. As it was pointed out, for all the biker knew, the cop could have been a jacker or kidnapper and pulled out his own weapon in self defense. Moron cop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozflubber View Post

    I don't think it should be illegal, but there has to be a better way of getting shitty cops off the streets while keeping the good ones on the street, because the latter is just as important as the former. Just my 2c.
    Pretty damn hard to do when misconduct is investigated by (wait for it) the same shitty cops. Although I believe some cities have 3rd parties, it certainly doesn't seem to be the norm.

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    really? I thought internal affairs was usually kept very much apart from the regular ones, for that precise reason.

    EDIT: oh wait, you mean like the Seargents of the department invstigating possible misconduct of one of thier officers. yeah you have a point there.

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    You would think that, but it apparently requires a great deal of fuss for this to be a reality, at least in the US, and even though citizens rally in vast swarms to demand oversight from outside the department, it isn't as widespread as it should be. I wouldn't know how other nations handle their law enforcement agencies.

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    This, as well as stuff that happens every day everywhere supports the fact that the police is just another gang.

    Mightier than the tread of marching armies is the power of an idea whose time has come

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    Don't hate the game, join the players. Get one of these stickers (pardon the quality)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    Don't hate the game, join the players. Get one of these stickers (pardon the quality)


    Gotta represent when you're driving down their roadz yo'

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    Sellout.

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