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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    I do not think either men or women can be considered as a class, because except in sexual areas, they lack uniform interests.
    What have uniform interests to do with anything?

    Whilst there are laws or customs that discriminate based on gender, it's a valid distinction to make.

    That said, I far prefer the original 1st wave feminism to 2nd and 3rd wave...
    No offense, but you're a 17 y/o dude.
    Who cares what you prefer? Do I tell you which hand to use?
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    What have uniform interests to do with anything?

    Whilst there are laws or customs that discriminate based on gender, it's a valid distinction to make.
    Agreed. But what makes a class are its interests. They are what define it. So beyond the point of purely gender related issues, as I already said, it does not make sense to consider either gender a class.

    No offense, but you're a 17 y/o dude.
    Who cares what you prefer? Do I tell you which hand to use?
    I ain't asking you to care. You can ignore me if you want, I am just putting my opinion out there. And what has my age got to do with the validity of my ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    And what has my age got to do with the validity of my ideas?
    I have to wonder, too.

    Don't go ad hominem on me now, Blue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    Agreed. But what makes a class are its interests. They are what define it. So beyond the point of purely gender related issues, as I already said, it does not make sense to consider either gender a class.
    Makes sense to me. What else you got?
    And what has my age got to do with the validity of my ideas?
    OK. I'll blame your gender then.
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    OK. I'll blame your gender then.
    For what? Does the fact that I am male illegitimatize my views on feminism?
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