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    Question Is money a necessary evil?

    Can we move beyond capitalism towards a better form of economic system, or is capitalism the best we can have?

    Can an economy function without money? Can we move beyond the market and have a cashless society in the future? If you think money is a necessary evil, please explain why.
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

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    I don't think money is a necessary evil. That would require money to be evil to begin with.
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    I think money is a useful good. Cash is far more liquid than goods, and as such allows for far easier trade. Trade has to occur, for people to be able to get more than they can produce themselves, and money makes it easier.

    As for moving to a "better system" than capitalism, I fail to see what is wrong with capitalism that would require moving to a better system in the first place.

    I think the question you are asking is "is desire a necessary evil?", with the presumption that money is the root of desire. I do not think this is the case.

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    I don't think that the problem is with either money or capitalism.

    If there is any problem it is with corporations, but this problem is in the process of being corrected. We are in the beginnings of a process where corporations are going to become smaller but more numerous. It will still take some time for the giant outdated dinosaurs to become extinct.
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    Money isn't evil. There needs to be a system to track the relative value that society owes an individual (or viceversa), and this worth needs to be in both fairly liquid and secure. Otherwise it's impossible to allocate resources properly without some sort of government rationing or something, which cannot possibly micromanage individual needs and wants in an acceptable fashion.

    Systems can have flaws for sure, but that's a much more complicated problem than blaming in on "money". You have to ferret out the systems that do not work and correct them.

    Can modern society function without money? No. To do so would require that either everyone get everything they want, which is impossible, or people forfiet their ability to purchase the items they prefer and accept what they are given, which is possible but highly undesirable.

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    If we were to get rid of money, wouldn't bartering be our only other option? Would that really improve society?
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    It wouldn't be all that fun to carry around bags of rice and useful things until we found someone who wanted our goods AND had something to trade. Plus then 90% of the day would be spent trying to find someone to exchange goods. And taxes would be impossible - which some might like, but it'd make modern society impossible.
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    As others have said, money isn't evil.

    Regarding capitalism, it is in our biology to trade. We are not ants, and cannot physically function well in a collective.

    Unless you can bio-mechanically or genetically engineer a more subservient human, we will not develop an effective alternative to capitalism.

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    We can, however, and do make more efficient capitalist systems.

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    Money is evil, dangerous and immoral. Fortunately, I have the means to dispose of it if you send me yours.

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