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    Sounds like it's time to pack up and marry a Canadian...or maybe a Dutch person...that sounds better actually.

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    This whole thing is disgusting and idiotic. No books should be burned, ever, religious or otherwise. Not even something as bland and useless as the Twilight series (in my opinion, of course). These people need to get over themselves. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebe View Post
    There are millions of Muslims who had nothing to do with 9/11 but somehow they are being punished/condemned too by some crazy fucking pastor burning a book they hold sacred.
    Freedom of speech is not contingent on no-one being offended. Free speech is sacred to us. Condemning the pastor's views without also expressing support for his right to express them is not being true to our own ideals. We are effectively renouncing some of our rights.

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    And he is doing this for what reason?

    To protest Islam? Muslims? The events of 9/11? What?

    Just to exercise his free speech rights?

    I don't get it.

    I think it's funny that the church's name is "Dove World Outreach Center".

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    How does setting a fire and burning books qualify as speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    Freedom of speech is not contingent on no-one being offended. Free speech is sacred to us. Condemning the pastor's views without also expressing support for his right to express them is not being true to our own ideals. We are effectively renouncing some of our rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    No, they'll just gun you down right at Church.
    No modern head of state ever asked anyone to please not desecrate a Christian symbol on the grounds that it would cost lives, however.

    Unlike our current president, who made a similar request vis-a-vis the Koran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Tourist View Post
    How does setting a fire and burning books qualify as speech?
    Because it's done to express an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Tourist View Post
    How does setting a fire and burning books qualify as speech?
    Do you mean because the opinions are being expressed by symbolic actions rather than literal words or do you mean that burning the words of another group infringes upon the rights of that group?
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    Beyond that- is anyone asking for this to be stopped by the government (since that's what "freedom of speech" refers to), or are we all also using our own right to free speech to acknowledge how small-minded, stupid, and disgusting this is? Seems like the latter to me, for the most part. In fact I believe it was argued pretty vehemently by several of us earlier in the thread that it should be protected free speech and not outlawed- BUT, so should be the counter-protest. Funny how quickly people cry "freedom of speech!" when they are being criticized by people who are exercising their own freedom of speech.

    This happens all the time on forums, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    Easy.
    It should be "recycle the religious books" day.
    Fixed for you.

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