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    We have a gridlocked government and a hyperpartisan population.

    AND an egotism epidemic.

    And it's probably only going to get worse before it gets better.

    Sorta glad I live five minutes from the Canadian border...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixelholic View Post
    We have a gridlocked government and a hyperpartisan population.

    AND an egotism epidemic.

    And it's probably only going to get worse before it gets better.

    Sorta glad I live five minutes from the Canadian border...
    you should come live here, we are more friendly

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    you should come live here, we are more friendly
    Not in my experience...

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    True.

    In practical terms, though, there is little difference between completely unregulated capitalism and being held hostage by private firms.

    The whole reason this dicussion involves the content it does is because the political culture that is currently present on this forum, many others, and I dare say the American culture at large, is one that's increasingly influenced by die-hard anti-regulators who think that the only true capitalism is a competely unregulated one, and that wanting the federal government to oversee damn near any business/commerce/finance/etc.. is tantamount to socialism.

    Just look at the Tea Party.
    Hostage-taking can be helped by the government, too, look at what's going on with prescription drugs. There's a difference between "regulation" and the right regulation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    you should come live here, we are more friendly
    Believe me, I'm tempted. Every time my friends and I end up in Toronto I want to start looking for apartments and figure out logistics of commuting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Hostage-taking can be helped by the government, too, look at what's going on with prescription drugs. There's a difference between "regulation" and the right regulation...
    Of course. There is bad government and good government.

    However, there is only bad anarchy, and only bad minarchy.

    In my mind, the debate is seldom if to regulate. It is only how to regulate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Not in my experience...
    explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    explain?
    Let's just say the east coast is all the same.

    Vancouver must be lovely, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Let's just say the east coast is all the same.
    pshh come to toronto or montreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    pshh come to toronto or montreal.
    I was in Toronto.

    And it's rainy in Montreal. I'm not going anywhere that's rainy.

    Wait, is there anywhere in Canada where the weather doesn't suck?

    Then again I'm moving to MPLS next fall so...
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    Go Canada!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tantive View Post
    Hmm and they too had to pump in stimulus. I loled
    "Had to" was debatable. Initial word from the government at the onset of the recession was "this will hurt us a little but we'll be mostly alright". When the USA got hit as hard as they did the media and opposition political parties went on a frenzy on the conservative (minority-governing) party for being laissez-faire about the whole thing. The conservatives eventually gave in and released their own stimulus package.

    While I have no particular ties to the conservative party, I do think they played their cards well. They read the economic future properly and only buckled when forced by the others. If they hadn't eventually gave in, the other parties would've dragged the country into elections at a very poor time to do so, and likely to no resulting change in power, only result being a lot of wasted effort.

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