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    I'd say ESTJ may still be predominate, but seems to be trending towards ESTP over time. Things like focus on short term gains, fascination with tools and toys (including weapons), needing to express one's mastery and diving in before understanding the implications all seem like more negatively stereotyped "SP" problems. One would hope we'd see the positive improvisational and creative aspects, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMoon View Post
    An ESFJ country would have a greater interest in cooperating peacefully with other countries while maintaining several of its traditions.
    On the other hand, its quite possible that it is not the most ideal example of an ESFJ country and hence the possibility still exists. ESFJ is the most common type in the USA anyhow..

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    ExTJ for sure. I don't know where some of you guys get the Fe or Ti from.

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    America is so STJ it hurts. Success, capitalism, standardized testing...I really don't think any N type at all because mainstream American films seriously lack nuance and ...something...that I frequently get from European films, particularly from certain countries like France or Russia. They're so straight forward. Our culture is so straight forward. And commercial. And in denial. Like it's on the surface, it's all on the surface and it's shiny. People aren't saying what they really mean. Over-polite, yet patently rude. Etc. Etc.

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    Collective cultural america is utterly and blatantly ESTJ. We like our Te. Think: efficiency, productivity, etc.
    For ESFJ try Canada.
    Every everything [books, websites] I've ever read about MBTI and countries clearly and unequivically declares that the US is ESTJ. ISTJ would be more like UK or Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Architectonic View Post
    On the other hand, its quite possible that it is not the most ideal example of an ESFJ country and hence the possibility still exists. ESFJ is the most common type in the USA anyhow..
    Actually, it's ISFJ, very closely followed by ISTJ. Most female americans are ISFJ, and most male americans are ISTJ. There are more females than males in the country, and so there are more ISFJs than ISTJs.
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    We're talking about the essence of mainstream culture, bro.

    If America was really ISFJ we'd be quieter, more polite, and certainly not as strongly competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    We're talking about the essence of mainstream culture, bro.

    If America was really ISFJ we'd be quieter, more polite, and certainly not as strongly competitive.
    How can the culture be anything but the people it's made up of?

    ESFJ is one of the more common types, but not dominant. ESTJ is number 3 I think, followed by ISTP and then ESFJ.
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    The overall big picture of the culture. America is ESTJ starting to lean ESTP.

    Example of ISTJ culture: England.

    NF cultures: France, Russia, Japan.

    We were just talking about this in vent last night.

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    Think about it in terms of language too: English, unsurprisingly, shapes a more functional, straight-forward STJ mindset. As does German. The language of people shapes (or reflects? chicken/egg) their general attitudes as a group.

    Think about how over-bearing and competitive Americans are, in terms of the overall world. The nation also seems very "responsible" ...even for the rest of the world, as if they are playing Daddy to everyone else.

    English people are more restrained, quiet, and regimented. Distant. The US and UK have two of the most distant cultures in terms of feeling and personal space.

    The French are very open and are known for "living well" in terms of the senses, and yet being a bit snobby and sort of pacifists.

    Russians are fatalistic.

    Japanese are polite.

    Etc. We could add a lot of detail here, but we're talking about the U.S.

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