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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    The figures I remember from high school, i.e. what we were taught, was that the Shoah killed 6 million Jews, 12 million people total... the rest being Communists, the handicapped, homosexuals, gypsies, political opponents of the Nazi regime, and other miscellaneous quote-unquote "undesirables"... meaning everyone whom the Nazis found ideologically intolerable.

    I quote these numbers not to deny the Shoah, but to freely acknowledge its horror and obscenity. For my information only, do those numbers require revision?
    I'm unsure what Shoah is or means, are we debating now whether the Nazi holocaust was exclusively anti-semitic or not? Is it anti-semitic and holocaust denial to remember the others who where killed?

    There where a lot of German, and annexed territories, people killed before the concentration camps rolled, hell of a lot of people in the prisons, asylums and hospitals where just progressively snuffed out, there had been street fighting accounting for a lot of political opposition too.

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    I'm not so sure these kids are rabid antisemites full of hate for Jews.... or South Park fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I'm unsure what Shoah is or means, are we debating now whether the Nazi holocaust was exclusively anti-semitic or not? Is it anti-semitic and holocaust denial to remember the others who where killed?

    There where a lot of German, and annexed territories, people killed before the concentration camps rolled, hell of a lot of people in the prisons, asylums and hospitals where just progressively snuffed out, there had been street fighting accounting for a lot of political opposition too.
    The Shoah, the Holocaust, the concentration camps and death camps and labor camps specifically. You know, Dachau, Auschwitz, Treblinka, Bergen-Belsen? Birkenau? Perhaps you've heard of them. That's what I was asking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    This is what I was talking about, right here:

    Some scholars maintain that the definition of the Holocaust should also include the Nazis' systematic murder of millions of people in other groups, including ethnic Poles, Romani, Soviet civilians, Soviet prisoners of war, people with disabilities, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and other political and religious opponents. By this definition, the total number of Holocaust victims would be between 11 million and 17 million people.
    I think it's fair to talk about everyone the Nazis systematically put to death, in addition to the six million Jews. I hope this doesn't make me a hater.

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    So what exactly happens to those who lose the game?
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    Is a movie about the holocaust anti-semitic?

    I think it's more anti-semitic to claim that this scenario was anti-semitic. It's well-known that Jews have suffered at the hands of the Nazis; the game wasn't that the upperclassmen were abusing the underclassmen because they were jews, it was that the upperclassmen were playing the roles of nazis and as such the 'nazis' abused the underclassmen in their roles as jews.

    Yes, due to the inherent cognitive dissonance in any game resembling the Stanford Prison Experiment, the game might breed anti-semitism, but it is not inherently anti-semitic any more than Focus.

    2. Regarding Jews and money.

    You could just read Outliers, but basically it went like this: thousands of Jews came to America just before the big boom in New York. They mostly worked in textiles but some did woodworking or whatever. They made just enough to get by at first, then suddenly New York became the center of fashion and design and with all the new people flocking in, many of them ended up owning their own factories. Well, they had enough money to send their kids to school during the depression when nobody else was there, and what did your parents want you to study in those days? Medicine or law. So there was an entire generation of Jewish doctors and lawyers through WWII, all descended from the same wave of immigrants who had all ridden the boom. The statistics are staggering.

    But there was a lot of anti-Jewish sentiment during those days, which meant that even as doctors and lawyers, they had to do 'dirty work'... and got good at it...so that when times changed and demand for those types of services shot up, they were the best.

    That's why so many American Jews are so rich. It's nothing about a culture of penny-pinching or gold-digging; that's from the Depression and lots of people still have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I'm not so sure these kids are rabid antisemites full of hate for Jews.... or South Park fans.
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    I keep clicking on this thinking it's a new arcade game, and I keep getting let down.
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    ^What you don't realize is that "the Jew" gets $$$ per click.

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