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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvyak View Post
    Based on the quotes alone, it was a reasonable decision to put cloud on my ignore list.
    Nvm, carry on.
    oh thats sad.
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    You can be serious man you dont go blaming the victim like that.

    Judahism (spelling) being both an ethnicity and a faith, and preserving the link between the two, through history and their diasporia has always managed to remain a "people apart", its a kind highly refined identity politics.

    Its pretty much peerless, in some ways its been channelled into Zionism but I think is wrong to see that as its crowning achievement or end result, the distinctiveness and identity remains among many who dont identify with a homeland or its state power, for instance Chomsky in the US. I used to think that the Aryanism of the Nazis was a kind of perverse mirror opposite of Zionism but I'm not so sure anymore.

    The thing is that that being highly resistant to assimilation and not really assimilating others or being open in that manner means that sometimes you're in a more or less favourable status group, you're highly visible too, easily identifiable. So you can become a victim of ostrichism, persecution etc. simply because you are, not necessarily because of anything you did and I'm not inclined to believe no smoke without fire theories.
    You also not heard about the dark side of Jewish history such as Jewish greed and manipulating other people to do their dirty work.
    It has nothing to do with assimilation.
    Look I am neutral to Jews as a race but it does matter when things are being judged in one sided point of view. I am not defending Hitler or anything, but there are reasons why Jews alone are being persecuted as a race, and thats not because they win the nobel prize.
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    Overall it doesn't sound all too different from hazing rituals used in different fraternities and such... like dropping the pledges off in a remote area with a map, a compass, a flashlight and some supplies and telling them to find their own way back... at night...

    I just think that the names that they gave the roles in it were completely tasteless, but high schoolers are dumb and don't have much of a sense of history usually. :rolli:

    In other words, I think that some of you guys are reading too much into this
    Yeah, I'd not be surprised if the idea for it originated from Family Guy and South Park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    In other words, I think that some of you guys are reading too much into this
    This.

    In fact, I would give strong consideration to the possibility that people do things like this precisely because of it's questionable/wrong nature, as opposed to just simply being anti-semitic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    You also not heard about the dark side of Jewish history such as Jewish greed and manipulating other people to do their dirty work.
    It has nothing to do with assimilation.
    Look I am neutral to Jews as a race but it does matter when things are being judged in one sided point of view. I am not defending Hitler or anything, but there are reasons why Jews alone are being persecuted as a race, and thats not because they win the nobel prize.
    There sure are reasons but none of them are legitimate.

    I'd say that the rumours of greed and manipulation are exaggerated, they where accused of usury a lot but then there was pretty much no banking system in most of the countries they inhabited since both Christians and Muslims where prohibited to make profits on loans or manipulate interest on loans, Jews where excluded from many other sources of employment because they where considered outsiders and "others" who shoud leave anyway, so its only natural that someone adapting to their circumstances would enterprise as a loan agent.

    Anti-semitism is the socialism of idiots because avarice, exploitation and class struggles are not cut along ethnic lines at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Yeah, I'd not be surprised if the idea for it originated from Family Guy and South Park.
    or Borat... as Alexsei mentioned on the first page

    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    This.

    In fact, I would give strong consideration to the possibility that people do things like this precisely because of it's questionable/wrong nature, as opposed to just simply being anti-semitic.
    like suburban kids with Christian parents who listen to Marilyn Manson :rolli:
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    Even today, Jews are kings of world finance and most have wealth beyond imagination.
    Its not aggressive persecution or nazism, so i fail to see why they make a big deal out of this.
    Jews do control most of the wealth in this world through banking, as they had in pre-WW2 Gernamy. Thats why I suspect they were the target of hate in Nazi Germany.

    Any ethnic group that has achieved a certain level of success will always arouse jealousy or hate.

    This is like using the Holocaust as the victim mentality while commiting genocide in the middle east.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    Even today, Jews are kings of world finance and most have wealth beyond imagination.
    Its not aggressive persecution or nazism, so i fail to see why they make a big deal out of this.

    Any ethnic group that has achieved a certain level of success will always arouse jealousy or hate.
    1) I wouldn't say most have wealth "beyond imagination". Most certainly work hard to get something out of their lives, and perhaps a select few crush it and swat it out of the park.

    2) Agreed @ the last statement.
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    Jews are kings of world finance and most have wealth beyond imagination.
    Hey, Haight does this mean you are rich?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    Even today, Jews are kings of world finance and most have wealth beyond imagination.
    Its not aggressive persecution or nazism, so i fail to see why they make a big deal out of this.

    Any ethnic group that has achieved a certain level of success will always arouse jealousy or hate.

    This is like using the Holocaust as the victim mentality while commiting genocide in the middle east.
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    Part of me wishes to take your money for that... and count it

    another part wants to cheat it off of you in a shell game

    and yet what I REALLY want to do is get drunk and kick your ass

    in other words... judging people on what they are as opposed to who they are is not a mistake you should make man... you're falling into racist conspiracy theories there
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