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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    Yeah, but doesn’t this ideal seem too subjective/open to external bias to be anything independently reliable?
    You're going to have to rephrase that using smaller words, Night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    Parisians can be snobbish. Outside Paris, not as much.
    If someone goes to NYC and nowhere else, they might decide that all Americans are rude too...
    Well I think this kind of stuff is true for almost any country you visit. I spent most of my childhood living in between Lille France and Glasgow Scotland accept for 1 year in Russia, and I spent most of my teenage years in the USA... So I've lived a lot of different places and for the most part people have a lot more in common across culture lines than is typically admitted... but that's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    We are all rude, though. People from New York tend to think that it's the center of the universe, the rest of the US is like that too, isn't it?
    Yeah. OK. Everyone on earth is rude. NEXT TOPIC

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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    Parisians can be snobbish. Outside Paris, not as much. If someone goes to NYC and nowhere else, they might decide that all Americans are rude too...
    Good point actually. I should have added in my earlier post "And likely to be encountered by foreigners" because Paris is such a tourist magnet and is the only part many vistors will spend much time in. I'm not sure it's any more representative of France in this respect than London is of Britain, or NY of the US, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    Yeah. OK. Everyone on earth is rude. NEXT TOPIC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Why not? If you have to be known for something, snobbishness seems to be as good a trait as any.
    The truth is that in France, being snobbish isn't necessarily perceived as a negative trait.
    It's really part of our culture, for better and for worst.

    Although "snobbishness" probably means something else than in the US, since it's less class related. Even French tramps can be snobbish, if you know what I mean...
    We're one of the only country on Earth where High culture clearly dominates "popular" culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    You're going to have to rephrase that using smaller words, Night.
    Haha. Sorry.

    What I meant was, isn't the notion of "rude" too debatable a term to adequately define (Read: your "red" isn't my "red", and so forth...) or implement when describing a group of people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spin-1/2-nuclei View Post
    Well I think this kind of stuff is true for almost any country you visit. I spent most of my childhood living in between Lille France and Glasgow Scotland accept for 1 year in Russia, and I spent most of my teenage years in the USA... So I've lived a lot of different places and for the most part people have a lot more in common across culture lines than is typically admitted... but that's just my opinion.
    I totally agree. I lived in NYC for 5 years, and found people to only be rude on the surface. Most people are similar once you remove the patina of cultural influence (if possible).
    I made a lot of friends in NYC. My best friend is an asshole from Paris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    Haha. Sorry.

    What I meant was, isn't the notion of "rude" too debatable a term to adequately define (Read: your "red" isn't my "red", and so forth...) or implement when describing a group of people?
    But we're not discussing rudeness, we're discussing snobbishness. Snobbishness requires the thought that one is better than everyone else (at least within a certain set of people), which isn't really a notion that is different. Rudeness can stem from snobbishness (you don't treat people well who are below you), or from many different things, but we're not discussing rudeness, just snobbishness.
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