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    Quote Originally Posted by InsatiableCuriosity View Post
    I think the answer to this would be to ask men who have chosen to have this done as an adult for religious (or other) reasons. But then again the mere fact that they had chosen to have it done may introduce unconscious bias and cause them, out of loyalty to their purpose, to say that there has been minimal effect???
    I think that is pretty likely, considering the more drastic attitude-altering effects that cognitive dissonance has had on, for example, soldiers in Abu Ghraib.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsatiableCuriosity View Post
    I think the answer to this would be to ask men who have chosen to have this done as an adult for religious (or other) reasons. But then again the mere fact that they had chosen to have it done may introduce unconscious bias and cause them, out of loyalty to their purpose, to say that there has been minimal effect???
    Yeah, I've thought that in relation to this issue. Maybe for an accurate control it might be better to focus on those who had it done for purely medical reasons (it does happen, though it's relatively uncommon in adults). Obviously when they're been circumcised as babies there's no real basis for subjective comparison...

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    I think that is pretty likely, considering the more drastic attitude-altering effects that cognitive dissonance has had on, for example, soldiers in Abu Ghraib.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blairvoyant View Post
    I think that is pretty likely, considering the more drastic attitude-altering effects that cognitive dissonance has had on, for example, soldiers in Abu Ghraib.

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    Interesting term isn't it - though I am surprised that Stockholm Syndrome is not among the cited examples.
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    male circumcision could be as barbaric as female circumcision if they used this device...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Although, apparently, male and female circumcision are quite different in their effects. You need to keep in mind that the clitoris is like a gajillion times more sensitive than the penis.
    Let's not go overboard.

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    O_O that's crazy! How's possible there's so many genital-mutilation practitioners in Australia? We have a relatively large immigrant population in my town, but this kind of thing doesn't happen?
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    I've pretty much already said everything I have to say regarding FGM, its equivalence (or relative lack thereof) with male circumcision, and its relation (or lack thereof) with traditional schools of Islamic law on this thread: http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...utilation.html

    But to reiterate, I think comparing FGM to male circumcision is erroneous and counter-productive.

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    Many health professionals now argue the case for male circumcision here as a means to reduce risk of disease including STDs
    Lol @ this kind of stuff. Check STD statistics for european countries, where basically nobody is circumcised - they're no more no less worse (or better) than those of any other developed country. Any form of circumcision (excepting people with foreskin troubles, ofcourse) is a barbaric & backwards religious practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    O_O that's crazy! How's possible there's so many genital-mutilation practitioners in Australia? We have a relatively large immigrant population in my town, but this kind of thing doesn't happen?
    Are you absolutely certain it doesn't? It is not likely that those practising this will advertise the fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsatiableCuriosity View Post
    Are you absolutely certain it doesn't? It is not likely that those practising this will advertise the fact.
    I can't be absolutely certain, but I would guess that if babies and/or young females were frequently carried to the hospital in conditions similar to those described by the link in the first post, it would be breaking news for local newspapers. Perhaps it's immigration from specific places that carried these cultural "norms", and we casually haven't been getting that.
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