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    Quote Originally Posted by Stol11 View Post
    I may point out that it was often the British Government that protected the rights of indigenous peoples over the settlers themselves. That certainly happened in Australia, it happened in America (before the revolution) when there was an attempt to limit the expansion of land that was settled. It was also the British empire that first abolished slavery and then actively used its Navy to try and destroy the slave trade. The 'land of the free' on the other hand was one of the last places to abolish slavery, even autocratic Russia managed to abolish serfdom beforehand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stol11 View Post
    I may point out that it was often the British Government that protected the rights of indigenous peoples over the settlers themselves. That certainly happened in Australia, it happened in America (before the revolution) when there was an attempt to limit the expansion of land that was settled. It was also the British empire that first abolished slavery and then actively used its Navy to try and destroy the slave trade. The 'land of the free' on the other hand was one of the last places to abolish slavery, even autocratic Russia managed to abolish serfdom beforehand.
    Tell that to the Irish, the Welsh, the Scots and all the people England has ruthlessly genocided during its long history.

    As a matter of fact, historically speaking, the Anglo-Saxon model is a genocidal one. They did it when they settled first in what was about to become England, they have done it during middle ages, and naturally, they did the same when they discovered other lands during the Renaissance. It's all about the frontier, when you repell those who are "differents", the savages who do not speak the same language than you.

    NO OTHER European power did behave the way they did. They ALWAYS ignored the locals when they decided to permanently settle somewhere. They NEVER mixed with them. And the paradox is that this total lack of ethos, this cynical yet realistic attitude allowed them to win and spread their civilization model everywhere in the world, more effectively than any other European power.

    England's history is a dreadful catalogue of crimes, so what do you expect?
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    OK things I do hate about the US, you guys totally suck at making chips, yeah, chips, they arent crisps which you mistakenly call chips but the proper potatoes cut into pieces and fried, what are fries? They are disgraceful annorexic excuses for chips, this is why people are obesce, you serve them minature food and they cant get enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    OK things I do hate about the US, you guys totally suck at making chips, yeah, chips, they arent crisps which you mistakenly call chips but the proper potatoes cut into pieces and fried, what are fries? They are disgraceful annorexic excuses for chips, this is why people are obesce, you serve them minature food and they cant get enough.
    No, this is why we're obese:



    And we got fries from the French*, blame them :P

    *that's why we called them freedom fries right? to upset the French who invented them? /stupid American

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    You don't use the metric system. 10.00 is beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    They ALWAYS ignored the locals when they decided to permanently settle somewhere. They NEVER mixed with them.
    Interestingly the group with the largest rate of intermarriage is Aborigines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    Tell that to the Irish, the Welsh, the Scots and all the people England has ruthlessly genocided during its long history.

    As a matter of fact, historically speaking, the Anglo-Saxon model is a genocidal one. They did it when they settled first in what was about to become England, they have done it during middle ages, and naturally, they did the same when they discovered other lands during the Renaissance. It's all about the frontier, when you repell those who are "differents", the savages who do not speak the same language than you.

    NO OTHER European power did behave the way they did. They ALWAYS ignored the locals when they decided to permanently settle somewhere. They NEVER mixed with them. And the paradox is that this total lack of ethos, this cynical yet realistic attitude allowed them to win and spread their civilization everywhere in the world, more effectively than any other European power.

    England's history is a dreadful catalogue of crimes, so what do you expect?
    And it's about time we treated the French in the same way.

    It's about time we retook Calais.

    It would be our mission civilisatrice.

    Sure, we may have to commit a few crimes along the way, but Calais is crying out to be English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Interestingly the group with the largest rate of intermarriage is Aborigines.
    Frankly, there's nothing to brag about it. Will you pretend Aborigines weren't genocided first, or expelled out of all the interesting lands if they were fortunate enough? (those who were green and blessed with a temperate climate)
    Have you ever been to Tasmania, for instance?

    Do you think the "amount" of intermarriage in Australia could compare to ANY other former latin settlement colony?

    Take America for instance. Where do you still have the largest proportion of Amerindians in the population? And where does this proportion is the tiniest of all?

    Is this A) Bolivia, B) Mexico, C) Brazil or D) USA/Canada?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stol11 View Post
    I may point out that it was often the British Government that protected the rights of indigenous peoples over the settlers themselves. That certainly happened in Australia, it happened in America (before the revolution) when there was an attempt to limit the expansion of land that was settled. It was also the British empire that first abolished slavery and then actively used its Navy to try and destroy the slave trade. The 'land of the free' on the other hand was one of the last places to abolish slavery, even autocratic Russia managed to abolish serfdom beforehand.
    Who needs chattel slaves when transported convicts belonged to the Crown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    Frankly, there's nothing to brag about it. Will you pretend Aborigines weren't genocided first, or expelled out of all the interesting lands of they were fortunate enough? (those who were green and blessed with a temperate climate)
    Have you ever been to Tasmania, for instance?

    Do you think the "amount" of intermarriage in Australia could compare to ANY other former latin settlement colony?

    Take America for instance. Where do you still have the largest proportion of Amerindians in the population? And where does this proportion is the tiniest of all?

    Is this A) Bolivia, B) Mexico, C) Brazil or D) USA/Canada?
    After 50,000 years of separation, Aborigines had no resistance to European diseases like the flu or the common cold or measles or hooping cough.

    And these diseases spread up the river systems ahead of the European settlers.

    And these common diseases did not just decimate the population but only left one tenth.

    And considering that the population at the time of settlement over the whole Continent and outlying islands was about 800,000, there were very few left over for genocide.

    No, the charge of genocide is a canard of the left started by the Communist Party of Australia for political and propaganda purposes.

    This has been extensively documented in three volumes by Keith Windschuttle, called, "The Fabrication of Aboriginal History".

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