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    Default Limits and benefits of competition

    I've been thinking about this recently, in relation to economics but also generally, what's your views? Is competition superior to collaboration or co-operation? For who? What are its limits or are there any? Are those limits a result of the way in which competition itself functions or a result of context or prevailing circumstances?

    Is it a good idea made obsolete or a good idea over due a come back?

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    Competition makes companies work for their profit. Their work involves getting the consumer to buy the product.

    A company could monopolize something very common, like milk, and then the consumer is stuck with one option, but if there was competition, the companies would have to compete for the profits by increasing quality or decreasing prices.

    It's useful in a human sense because humans are greedy. If the humans, in their greed, have to improve their goods, and in that way improve the life of the consumer, it's a win win situation, especially if the competing companies can never edge one out of the market.

    Competition in the general sense also increases the need to improve yourself. Competition imposes a standard that is met by those who are competitive and feel the need to win. In sports the players get stronger, faster, and better at the game because you need to in order to win. Competitive people want to win. They want to feel strong, and winning lets them feel that.

    Collaboration happens when many people share the same goal, or at least want to see the same thing happen. Collaboration usually happens in competition. There's a problem and multiple people want it fixed, so they cooperate to meet that end. The trick is to find a problem that they want fixed so badly that they will cooperate. Some folks just cooperate because they want to, others, at the end of the spectrum, would only cooperate if the ends justified the means, if the problem severely annoyed them.

    I think human existence is just competition on different levels. There will always be two things, theoretical or not, butting up against each other until one gives way.
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    How is a three-person family store supposed to compete with a multinational corporation? The corporation have better resources, better financial support, better investments, etc. I'd think a lot of people would want to be their own boss than be a stooge in a corporation wearing uniforms in their forties and having four different bosses. It's demeaning. That's the limit, it goes too far that it puts lots of small businesses out of work. These businesses may not be the best but these are their entire livelihoods and not everyone is capable of surviving in a competitive corporate environment and just because they can't doesn't mean they should end up pushing carts for a multi-supermarket.

    Otherwise, competition means economic growth, improvement of product quality and quantity, and cheaper products. We should strive for a healthy, less stomp all over you balance and let the ones in the same playing field compete mostly with each other. Also, this competition ensures that certain people remain at the bottom and certain people at the top, creating a huge inequality, even if it is more efficient. Not to say that competition should be stifled, competition is, I agree, a natural part of human and human improvement, but we should also be willing to protect the ones left out of the benefits. Now, that may be contradictory at times depending on the matter, but it is still a necessity, imo. Not everyone can play on the same field.

    Outside of economics, competition vs cooperation depends greatly on the situation. Sometimes, the greater benefit will come from cooperation between several strong opinions. Sometimes, competition will wield out the best of the best. Sometimes cooperation leads to greater creations and advances, sometimes not.

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    I favor a mixed economy. Part free-market capitalism, part socialism. High quality-of-life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I've been thinking about this recently, in relation to economics but also generally, what's your views? Is competition superior to collaboration or co-operation? For who? What are its limits or are there any? Are those limits a result of the way in which competition itself functions or a result of context or prevailing circumstances?

    Is it a good idea made obsolete or a good idea over due a come back?
    Competition isn't just part of economics, it's part of life. But what has made humans such a successful species is our ability to cooperate. Competition has its place, but when you take it to an absurd extreme, it can become detrimental to society.

    Corporations hate competition.

    P.S. When businesses say they want deregulation, what they really want is a less competitive environment, a system they can rig. The last thing they want is more competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Competition isn't just part of economics, it's part of life. But what has made humans such a successful species is our ability to cooperate. Competition has its place, but when you take it to an absurd extreme, it can become detrimental to society.

    Corporations hate competition.

    P.S. When businesses say they want deregulation, what they really want is a less competitive environment, a system they can rig. The last thing they want is more competition.
    Yeah, it is wider than economics, although economics is meant to be life and most of the pop-economics books like Freakonomics and Logic of Life and Undercover economist tries to reinforce that view with their accounts.

    I kind of believe that the economic argument has morphed and moved on it could even be between public and private competition or co-operation. In reality I think that in the economy and life there's a mix of each, different cultures approximate more towards one or another or perhaps its contextual.

    I tend to think that there's extensive co-operation which is unacknowledged, necessary to make competition possible, although I dont support a lot of the opposition to competition per se or attempts to put co-operation on the school ciriculum, I sort of think that's a vain hope that schools can provide the life education home life is failing to provide.

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    Cooperation is key.
    It's easy to not cooperate. While some gains can be made this way, just like the Germans could win victories over the romans at times, organized cooperation is the best way to go about things.
    Whether it's a football team, an army, an ant colony or a government.
    You can get a lot done with people working in tandem. The more people and resources, the greater the results.
    If it can be managed. Which I do believe it can.
    Especially if the people involved want to be there and strive for something greater.

    Mightier than the tread of marching armies is the power of an idea whose time has come

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