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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    I think we should all pretend that we think he is saying that the US is awesome.
    That's like if a parent were to feed his kid dog food, to which the kid gets all giddy and calls it an oscar meyer lunch snack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleseven View Post
    This is an eloquently stated "F U AMERICA" thread. His "charges" are the same charges with which every European colonial power has attacked us over the past 200 years.

    Anti-Americanism has a long history.
    So... they hate us because we're good at marketing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    So... they hate us because we're good at marketing?
    Fortunately, most countries have neighbors they hate more than America...we're a back-up hate. Take Greece, for example. Greece's socialists don't like America (we're capitalist pigs), but they hate Turkey far more than us.

    Victor's problem is that Australia has never been conquered or bombed into oblivion, so all he has to hate is America. If we had let Japan occupy Australia in 1942, I'm sure he'd be ranting and raving about "evil Japanese corporations" instead.



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    I think we should all pretend that we think he [Victor] is saying that the US is awesome.
    Well, the USA is awesome.

    And just as you have a trop of the innocent American abroad, we have a trop of going OS (overseas) on a voyage of discovery like Lieutenant James Cook, the world's greatest discoverer.

    And we have discovered that we are more at home in the South because they have time to talk and are formal, like ourselves, except that we are formally informal.

    And we have discovered that not only are you awesome but that you are fabulous, in the sense that you are the land of fables.

    And we return, tired but happy, to Australia Felix.

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    Limitation of power only exist because of how easily a person's emotion can led him or her to complete domination. You only have to look at congress to to see so many clashing ideas. These days we like to consider ourselves civil and so we like to talk it out so to speak. Back then, you'll be lucky if you can speak if you haven't already got a spear or a sword stuck somewhere in your body.

    Absolute power is not a problem if you have a just king/queen. Unfortunately, having the ability to do whatever you want puts a person in a position to be first and last line of defence to indulge on her or his emotions (hate, anger, revence, pride.. you know the stuff wars are made of). This is hard for some people and this is where the problem lies. If history has taught us anything. Of course there are possitive aspect of emotions which are necessity to being a good ruler. Limit of power is awesome to some degree, it gives more people more chance to be bros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleseven View Post
    Fortunately, most countries have neighbors they hate more than America...we're a back-up hate. Take Greece, for example. Greece's socialists don't like America (we're capitalist pigs), but they hate Turkey far more than us.

    Victor's problem is that Australia has never been conquered or bombed into oblivion, so all he has to hate is America. If we had let Japan occupy Australia in 1942, I'm sure he'd be ranting and raving about "evil Japanese corporations" instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleseven View Post
    Victor's problem is that Australia has never been conquered or bombed into oblivion, so all he has to hate is America. If we had let Japan occupy Australia in 1942, I'm sure he'd be ranting and raving about "evil Japanese corporations" instead.
    He does that already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    It's too bad we had to enter WWII, you know?
    Well its how the majority of US citizens felt, if the yellow peril hadnt attacked the US gov. would have had a very hard time convincing the people that a war against anyone but the red menace was necessary.

    I'm not anti-American but lets not have the broken record about how the US has always been the interventionist world policing friend democracy exporter that it plays at being today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I'm not anti-American but lets not have the broken record about how the US has always been the interventionist world policing friend democracy exporter that it plays at being today.
    Yeah, exactly my point.

    I don't see anything innocent about preemptively waging wars on whole nations in the name of democracy because religious extremist groups decided to do what religious extremist groups usually do: terrorize. I'm not trying to trivialize 9/11, not at all, but I think by our country trying to perpetually police the entire world instead of concentrating on our own crises first is going to come back on us. I think some of it already has. This "good-intentioned, neighborly officer" role we've been portraying is deceptive (esp since many American businesses, to give an example, have exploited that role to gain the trust of foreign businessmen but have in return polluted their country's political identity, and its people's cultural and racial identity to boot, into a uniformly American one) as we've taken on a huge responsibility as "Superpower USA" that we can't really sustain, which simply illustrates our naivete as a nation. We just have no idea how to prioritize.

    We'll learn eventually, but we'd learn sooner if there wasn't so much resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I'm not anti-American
    Being pro-American or anti-American is often a way of establishing our identity. But ironically almost all of our pro-Americanism or anti-Americanism is copied from America.

    So being pro or anti-American is ultimately being American.

    They tell me we all have two countries, our own and France. And we all have two cultures, our own and American.

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