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    Yes, illegals SHOULD be scared. Come here the legal way or stay home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcockburn View Post
    Yes, illegals SHOULD be scared. Come here the legal way or stay home.
    What do you think about American companies that advertise for workers to come to the states in Mexico? Many from families that were put out of work by the import of cheaper American food. What if those companies even put them on a bus to bring them over the border themselves? What if companies have a deal with immigration to arrest a few of these "illegals" once a week or so?

    Part of the blame is on corporations that prefer illegal immigrants who have no rights over legal immigrants and Americans. Who outsource their labor abroad every chance they get. These American companies don't care about Americans, or the workers they're exploiting.



    There is a section of the film that reveals how illegal immigrants are the faceless workers that help to bring food to our tables. Can you give us a profile of the average worker?
    Schlosser:
    The typical farm worker is a young, Latino male who does not speak English and earns about $10,000 a year. The typical meatpacking worker has a similar background but earns about twice that amount. A very large proportion of the nation’s farm workers and meatpackers are illegal immigrants.

    Why are there so many Spanish-speaking workers?
    Kenner:
    The same thing that created obesity in this country, which is large productions of cheap corn, has put farmers out of work in foreign countries, whether it’s Mexico, Latin America or around the world. And those farmers can no longer grow food and compete with the U.S.’ subsidized food. So a lot of these farmers needed jobs and ended up coming into this country to work in our food production.

    And they have been here for a number of years. But what’s happened is that we’ve decided that it’s no longer in the best interests of this country to have them here. But yet, these companies still need these people and they’re desperate, so they work out deals where they can have a few people arrested at a certain time so it doesn’t affect production. But it affects people’s lives. And these people are being deported, put in jail and sent away, but yet, the companies can go on and it really doesn’t affect their assembly line. And what happens is that they are replaced by other, desperate immigrant groups.

    Amazon.com: Food, Inc.: Eric Schlosser, Robert Kenner: Movies & TV

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    I'm not sure why people think illegal immigrants are such a big deal in the first place. They work hard, because they're scared to loose their jobs. They NEED those to survive, and they don't have the typical "the world owes me!" mentality that many people in canada and the states have developed.

    So whot's the problem? Well... they get exploited since they have no rights. They can't protest or they get deported, they can't quit or they won't get hired again, and they can't demand basic rights or they get caught.

    This allows companies to abuse them in ways that the regular population can't be.

    So whot's the problem? The problem isn't the workers themselves... the problem is that they aren't given rights because they're illegal immigrants.

    If yeu simply took the illegal immigrants, and taught them english, and made them legal, and gave them rights, then they couldn't be abused like that anymore, and all the issues with them affecting the economy disappear.

    The issue is that they're abused because they can't go anywheres for help, and can't defend themselves. If yeu gave them that, then they wouldn't be abused, and yeu wouldn't suffer the fallout of the abuse anymore.

    I'll never understand why americans HATE immigrants in general so much... unless yeu're native by birth, *YEU* are an illegal immigrant yeurself O.o

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    [youtube="2gkBP2RCbo4"]Immigration Check Point[/youtube]

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    Arizona Immigration Law Is An Attack On Women And Children

    In addition to the obvious racist and xenophobic implications of the new Arizona immigration law, in addition to the obvious concerns that this unlawful law targets residents based on the hue of their skin and the language on their lips…

    There is something else that troubles us. SB 1070 is an attack on women – especially mothers, and those who find themselves in situations of domestic violence, sexual assault or workplace discrimination.

    What was Governor Jan Brewer thinking when she stood for all the world to see and signed this wrong-headed legislation into law? There is so much in SB 1070 that compels activists to speak out against it.

    Targeting drivers for potential deportation means mothers are taken away from their children, splitting up families in pursuit of enforcement of a broken immigration system. A mother dropping her child off at school or child care in the morning doesn't know if she'll be there to pick her up in the afternoon.

    And SB 1070 actually increases the threat to women facing domestic violence or sexual assault. Why would a woman call the police to report a crime, why would she ask the police to come to her home, when the first thing they're going to do is demand her citizenship documentation or that of her family members? This law is a boon for those who would threaten and abuse wives, girlfriends, partners and other women.

    It's also a boon for unscrupulous employers who violate wage and discrimination laws or permit sexual harassment in the workplace. These laws apply to all workers, with and without documents. If you work, under law, you must get paid and you must not be discriminated against or illegally harassed. But SB 1070 silences women from speaking out, from reporting crimes and violations of workplace rights.

    By silencing women, SB 1070 permits and condones these attacks. It's especially bad for the women who face them as individuals, but it's also bad for ALL women.

    What women need are policies that ensure they can provide for their families, policies like paid sick days laws that protect jobs and income even if you face unthinkable situations like domestic violence and sexual assault.

    What women need are policies that do not place them as targets of unscrupulous employers, but that help them fight illegal labor practices like pay discrimination and help to close the pay gap (which disproportionately affects Latinas and other women of color) so they can support their children now and support themselves in retirement.

    We don't need laws that criminalize women and make them more vulnerable to harm, but laws that help make ALL women and their families successful and more able to live out the American dream. Join us in speaking out against SB 1070 now!
    Arizona Immigration Law Is An Attack On All Women

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warm View Post
    How are they getting away with this?
    Because the majority of the people in the state want this, and the people have spoken.
    I am an ENTJ. I hate political correctness but love smart people ^_^

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    I noticed this at the bottom of the article...

    "Teachers who don't meet the new fluency standards have the option of taking classes to improve their English, the Journal reports, but if they fail to reach the state's targets would be fired or reassigned."


    It's nasty. Basically it says if you don't play ball, or if we don't like you, your out. Too much power and by the looks of it, in the wrong hands. Now thats scary.
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    Good thing AZ is far away from me. Same with Utah, which I had listed as one of the worst states and promised myself to never go to. Arizona is catching up to that number one spot pretty quickly.

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    Rep. Linda Sanchez Ignites Debate By Linking Arizona Law To White Supremacists

    U.S. Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-Lakewood) ignited a heated debate when she suggested that Arizona's crackdown on illegal immigration was fueled by white supremacists.

    Sanchez criticized the crackdown in a speech before a Democratic group this week.

    "The Arizona laws are not a mistake," she said. "They're not accidental or one person's crazy law. There's a concerted effort behind promoting these kinds of laws on a state-by-state basis by people who have ties to white supremacy groups."

    Sanchez gave the speech to a Whittier group, and the Whittier Daily News reported it and posted audio as well.

    Her comments ignited much controversy. She was criticized by conservative groups and on talk-radio shows Thursday. A spokesman for Arizona's governor also took issue with the comments.

    Late Thursday, Sanchez issued a statement attempting to "clarify" her comments.

    "I never said that everyone who supports the Arizona law is a racist or white supremacist," she said in the statement.

    The Arizona law requires police to determine the immigration status of anyone they stop and suspect is in the country illegally. It also makes it a state crime to lack proper immigration papers. Top U.S. Justice Department officials have drafted a legal challenge asserting that Arizona's law is unconstitutional because it impinges on the federal government's authority to police the nation's borders.
    Rep. Linda Sanchez ignites debate by linking Arizona law to white supremacists | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

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