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    It looks like the incumbent President will drown in oil.

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    I don't see how anyone can rightly blame any president for this or any oil spill. As long as this nation remains addicted to oil, this will happen again just as it happen before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander29 View Post
    That quote keeps repeating in my head.

    Really, this is a huge environmental disaster. Worse that Exxon Valdez. Not sure if it is worse than Chernobyl. I would not be surprised if this bankrupted BP and wonder what kind of impact something like that would have on the economy.
    It's far worse than Chernobyl. Chernobyl really wasn't that bad. Most peoples' perception of that disaster is based on fear rather than hard science. What's happening in the Gulf...it's unimaginable.

    This disaster should bankrupt BP.
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    And yet it could be much worse. Since I have heard that pretty strong/active hurricane season is expected this year (which should start about now).
    What could halt all or the operations related to the spill. Plus hurricanes will probably pick up alot of oil and throw it in water supplies, crops and populated areas all over the southern US. (if they don't remove the oil fast)

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    the scale of this thing is horrifying as are the half-baked 'fixes.' i also can't believe some of the statements tony hayward has made on this...he's like a caricature of an evil CE.



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    Here is something interesting that I found.
    The National Center for Atmospheric Research made a simulation of what will/could happen if this doesn't stop soon.



    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKRS-J4BdbU&feature=player_embedded"]Video[/YOUTUBE]

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    I can't stand how people spaz out over accidents. Look at the last ten years-- 9/11, the Columbia disaster, Katrina, the banking collapse, and BP. Each time, hordes of people are like, OMG THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!!!!!!

    People have literally lost their grip on reality. Worst case for the BP oil spill: it will ruin the lives of some stupid animals, and will take a few years for BP to clean it up. Look-- we eat millions of stupid animals every damn day. This has no effect on my life, nor does it on most of yours.

    Our wise men believe there is no mind-independent reality, as if the world is constituted by different perspectives and points of view, each of which is correct in its own way. So when something unexpected happens, we hear chants of DO SOMETHING by some magic method called SOMEHOW, as if resources just resource themselves without the application of human intelligence.

    It is the abracadabra, hopenchange method of dealing with risk and uncertainty. Do we send a strongly worded letter to the oil spill? Perhaps we can send an ambassador to it, and find out the root causes and what we did to make it dislike us? Maybe we can invite the oil spill to a meeting with the President on the south lawn to talk about their differences. Of course, we can always bribe the oil spill with government largesse, ahem, "invest in our children," "create jobs" "build bridges to the future" in return for its support. And if that doesn't work, we can always use old-fashioned methods-- we can have union thugs beat up the oil spill.

    Seriously-- the enlightened, smart, bright, progressive way of looking at the world is puerile and stupid. BP has more resources than the government to stop the leak, and they have every incentive to stop it. They'll do their best, and we'll see what happens. So stop worshiping Gaia, turn off your television set, and stop bitching-- your life is not being harmed because of this. Risk is a part of life-- even hopenchange progressive socialist societies have their Chernobyls. Deal with it.

    Jeez I hate you people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHBowden View Post
    I can't stand how people spaz out over accidents. Look at the last ten years-- 9/11, the Columbia disaster, Katrina, the banking collapse, and BP. Each time, hordes of people are like, OMG THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!!!!!!

    People have literally lost their grip on reality. Worst case for the BP oil spill: it will ruin the lives of some stupid animals, and will take a few years for BP to clean it up. Look-- we eat millions of stupid animals every damn day. This has no effect on my life, nor does it on most of yours.

    Our wise men believe there is no mind-independent reality, as if the world is constituted by different perspectives and points of view, each of which is correct in its own way. So when something unexpected happens, we hear chants of DO SOMETHING by some magic method called SOMEHOW, as if resources just resource themselves without the application of human intelligence.

    It is the abracadabra, hopenchange method of dealing with risk and uncertainty. Do we send a strongly worded letter to the oil spill? Perhaps we can send an ambassador to it, and find out the root causes and what we did to make it dislike us? Maybe we can invite the oil spill to a meeting with the President on the south lawn to talk about their differences. Of course, we can always bribe the oil spill with government largesse, ahem, "invest in our future," "create jobs" "build bridges to the future" in return for its support. And if that doesn't work, we can always use old-fashioned methods-- we can have union thugs beat up the oil spill.

    Seriously-- the enlightened, smart, bright, progressive way of looking at the world is puerile and stupid. BP has more resources than the government to stop the leak, and they have every incentive to stop it. They'll do their best, and we'll see what happens. So stop worshiping Gaia, turn off your television set, and stop bitching-- your life is not being harmed because of this. Risk is a part of life-- even hopenchange progressive socialist societies have their Chernobyls. Deal with it.

    Jeez I hate you people.

    The thing is that if they don't stop it the WILL going to end. I am pretty sure that they will close it eventually but in the case they don't the consequences will be ... VERY large.

    Use your Ni. Imagine what will happen if oil continues to leak into the ocean for the next lets say 10-20 years ? What will happen ?

    Everything that has something to to with Mexican gulf will go bankrupt. (BP inculuded).

    The ocean currents will carry the spill into pretty much every corner of the globe. What will put large additional stress to ecosystems. What would not be that much of a problem if we overlook the fact that those ecosystems are crucial for feeding at least half of the worlds population and they have large impact on the other half. Not to mention that year after year the hurricanes in the gulf will pick up oil from the sea and dump it all accros the southern US. (in water supplys, crops, homes, roads etc)




    In other words this has the potential to be one of those moments in history like Pear Harbor, Watergate or 9/11. I personally think that they will manage to seal it but if they don't we are probably looking at the end of the world as we know it. Think a little bit about this, make connections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHBowden View Post
    I can't stand how people spaz out over accidents. Look at the last ten years-- 9/11, the Columbia disaster, Katrina, the banking collapse, and BP.

    Jeez I hate you people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHBowden View Post
    I can't stand how people spaz out over accidents. Look at the last ten years-- 9/11, the Columbia disaster, Katrina, the banking collapse, and BP. Each time, hordes of people are like, OMG THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!!!!!!

    People have literally lost their grip on reality. Worst case for the BP oil spill: it will ruin the lives of some stupid animals, and will take a few years for BP to clean it up. Look-- we eat millions of stupid animals every damn day. This has no effect on my life, nor does it on most of yours.

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