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    BBC News - Christian sex therapist Gary McFarlane loses appeal bid

    I reckon this is wrong. I dont believe if it where a homosexual refusing a service to heterosexuals, for whatever reason, that the courts woudnt support them.

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    Get a blog.

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    I'm pretty damn sure that if a homosexual denied service to heterosexual couples, that person would be dropped like a hot potato and the courts wouldn't have any sympathy. And regarding both the guy in this actual case, and the person in my hypothetical case, I think that's how it should be.

    You seem very insecure about homosexuality in our society, Lark. I think your fears are unsubstantiated.
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    I guess the rub here is that when you have socialized medicine vs. individual practitioner rights, the former wins. I can buy that. Just a con of such a system. Even here, I am not going to go work for Planned Parenthood if I do not want to deliver abortion meds or provide education for abortion; that's ridiculous. He just needs to find a better professional fit with his philosophical bents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    BBC News - Christian sex therapist Gary McFarlane loses appeal bid

    I reckon this is wrong. I dont believe if it where a homosexual refusing a service to heterosexuals, for whatever reason, that the courts woudnt support them.
    Lark, honey:

    If you don't want to talk about gay topics and your views on gays...
    ... why are you still starting threads involving gay topics?

    Please stop.

    ....

    Otherwise... everyone else... discuss.

    I have mixed feelings on the topic.

    I would like people to be free to follow their values and not be punished by their employers.

    However, if your employer needs and expects you to be able to field cases that come through and you refuse to treat or you mis-treat patients, then the employer also has a right to protect itself; you're not upholding your end of the bargain.

    This sort of topic comes up here in the States, with pharmacists who refuse to dispense abortion pills. The issue is when the person coming in has every legal right to get the medication, but if the staffer refuses to do their job and the person has no other available options, now they have been denied their rights under the law. It's sort of messy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I'm pretty damn sure that if a homosexual denied service to heterosexual couples, that person would be dropped like a hot potato and the courts wouldn't have any sympathy. And regarding both the guy in this actual case, and the person in my hypothetical case, I think that's how it should be.

    You seem very insecure about homosexuality in our society, Lark. I think your fears are unsubstantiated.
    I'm not insecure about anything Magic, I'm not happy about how a minority life style has gone from tolerance to prominance politically and legally. They're untouchable. Anyway, the thread isnt about me, if it where the topic would be "Lets discuss my views about...", I posted a news story and accompanied it by an opinion that it was wrong.

    I believe that there's a simple message here, if you have a conscientious objection to homosexuality it could cost you your job and you will have no legal recourse. This to me has been a major injury to individual sovereignty and this guy and presumably anyone who would act in a similar fashion is effectively/objectively legally disenfranchised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Lark, honey:

    If you don't want to talk about gay topics and your views on gays...
    ... why are you still starting threads involving gay topics?

    Please stop.


    Otherwise... everyone else... discuss.
    I said that there was an inordinate amount of effort going into defending homosexuality in the other thread, which was about freedom of speech, so I decided to start a seperate thread about the topic and reflecting the trend I thought was at issue.

    If its a problem delete the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I'm not insecure about anything Magic, I'm not happy about how a minority life style has gone from tolerance to prominance politically and legally. They're untouchable. Anyway, the thread isnt about me, if it where the topic would be "Lets discuss my views about...", I posted a news story and accompanied it by an opinion that it was wrong.

    I believe that there's a simple message here, if you have a conscientious objection to homosexuality it could cost you your job and you will have no legal recourse. This to me has been a major injury to individual sovereignty and this guy and presumably anyone who would act in a similar fashion is effectively/objectively legally disenfranchised.
    Church and State are separate and have been for a long time. Worship away, but don't inflict that on others, especially those seeking state financed healthcare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I'm not insecure about anything Magic, I'm not happy about how a minority life style has gone from tolerance to prominance politically and legally. They're untouchable. Anyway, the thread isnt about me, if it where the topic would be "Lets discuss my views about...", I posted a news story and accompanied it by an opinion that it was wrong.
    Good idea! Why don't we merge all the threads into "let's discuss lark's opinion on the gays"? That's what they're all actually about anyway. The inital news article is just a way of bringing up the topic (again).

    I'm seeing the same discussion over and over and over again...the above bolded has been said in every thread...for simplicity and depth of argument, why not make a thread dealing with the real issue instead of hopping threads repeating the same arguments?

    edit: I would comment on this thread...but I've already said exactly what I would have said in another thread started by you (or two, or three). That's a sign you're doing it wrong....
    -end of thread-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I said that there was an inordinate amount of effort going into defending homosexuality in the other thread, which was about freedom of speech, so I decided to start a seperate thread about the topic and reflecting the trend I thought was at issue.
    You start many many threads on this forum about perceiving wrongs by the "homosexual forces". It's not a 'separate thread,' it seems to be an ongoing agenda with you.

    I also had just gotten done responding in THAT thread to your comments about how you did not start this whole homosexuality angle of discussion and complained about it becoming prominent, and then you turn right around and start another one! It is simply blowing my mind.

    If its a problem delete the thread.
    As a member, I'm having a big issue with you and your logical inconsistencies, enough that I'm finally going to challenge you.

    As a mod, I'll say that your topic itself is allowable on this forum.
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