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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    I'm kind of disturbed by the number of people who think that the cost of the ring and thus the assumed wealth of the man are factors in whether he's entitled to have the ring back. I don't care if he makes minimum wage or six figures...if he deserves it, he deserves it. The money is irrelevant.

    And in most cases, I think he deserves it back. Accepting the ring is as much a promise as giving the ring. And if that promise is broken, the ring should be returned. Now, if the reason for the breakup is infidelity or another breach of trust on the man's part, that might be a reason why she could feel entitled to keep the ring. That said, if she didn't return it, I'd feel confident that avoiding a marriage to this sort of person was the best thing that could happen to me.
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    Well, I think she should keep it. I mean, he gave it to her, so...

    here it's kind of customary not to give anything back when a relationship ends (actually giving stuff back is only done out of spite). Well, the surname of the girl sounds italian, so perhaps we share customs, that's why I am puzzled about the relevance of the issue.
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    I'd have a frickin' fit if I was given a ring that cost $17.5 grand. I'd make him take it back. Just a gold wedding band will do. (Any way I couldn't wear that hua of a ring to work any ways, OHand S reasons, plus I'd ruin the settings anyway). Normally I'd be on the women's side and say he gave it as a gift...but the article said she was having doubts about the relationship when he proposed. So I'm guessing she broke it off. In fact she shouldn't have accepted in the first place, (I don't care if it's her birthday). She sounds like she's got a pretty bad case of misdirected self-entitlement, because that line about feeling pressure to get married is as poor an excuse as you can get...it's as bad as everyone else was doing it.
    The guy must be kinda relieved...she sounds high maintanence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Well, I think she should keep it. I mean, he gave it to her, so...

    here it's kind of customary not to give anything back when a relationship ends (actually giving stuff back is only done out of spite). Well, the surname of the girl sounds italian, so perhaps we share customs, that's why I am puzzled about the relevance of the issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    After a quick check of the law in NY (it does vary from state to state on this issue) it does appear that engagement rings are considered conditional gifts. Since she broke the engagement she has to return the ring upon request... Once he gives it to her it belongs to her as long as she meets the condition of getting married. So between the time of engagement and marriage it belongs to the woman...
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    Wow. When opportunity knocks, she throws open the door and... well, you know what happens next...
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    Why would she want to keep the ring? For the memories? I doubt that. I think she wants it for the money.

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    With all the makeup she's wearing in that interview (must be at least 10 lbs), it's hard for me to imagine she's not superficial and materialistic. The guy probably is too. At the very least, he's an idiot.
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    But yeah im against buying super expensive stuff. Its like buying someone s affection. It s vulgar. And if u give something, expecting it back after thr breakup is just a confirmation of this vulgarity and neediness
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