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    Quote Originally Posted by kendoiwan View Post
    My issue here is, why is it when a man does what is considered romantic, as soon as reality sets in, he's stupid. But if a man doesn't buy into the romanticism to begin with he's a misogynist?
    Now you've got it!

    Actually, come on.. there's a happier medium here.

    (Flowers at the local super, you know? $5? That's romantic. I've swooned over an unexpected bouquet of flowers before.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Now you've got it!

    Actually, come on.. there's a happier medium here.

    (Flowers at the local super, you know? $5? That's romantic. I've swooned over an unexpected bouquet of flowers before.)
    All the "He went to Jarred" commercials and Zales "make a memory" commercials say your NT practicality is in the minority on these matters.
    Assuming he could afford the 17G's in the first place, that's not even all that much money to spend on a ring relatively. That won't even cover most weddings these days...

    Not that I'dve done it but that's besides the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kendoiwan View Post
    Look at the picture in the link. It wasn't too bad at all. Nothing that would make her a target walking down the street.

    My issue here is, why is it when a man does what is considered romantic, as soon as reality sets in, he's stupid. But if a man doesn't buy into the romanticism to begin with he's a misogynist?

    If I was looking at the same thing, that's an advertisement.


    But the sounds of the article are dramatic. Like Jock said, probably some bridezilla MTV-ish type story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    If I was looking at the same thing, that's an advertisement.
    You're right!
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    Jeesh. I hope he doesn't still owe money on it.

    I cannot fathom wasting that much money on something like that. Around here, that'd be a down payment on a nice little house.
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    I always thought engagement rings were a gift? (assuming she says yes).

    I mean, you don't return wedding rings when the wedding ends. It's not his property anymore as soon as he gives it to her.

    17.5k is retarded to spend on a ring, too.
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    After a quick check of the law in NY (it does vary from state to state on this issue) it does appear that engagement rings are considered conditional gifts. Since she broke the engagement she has to return the ring upon request. The birthday thing kind of throws a loop in it... it may get her a little bit more out of the settlement although ultimately I think its irrelevant. Bottom line they should sell the ring and split it 75/25 man/woman... there is no way this should actually go to court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Now you've got it!

    Actually, come on.. there's a happier medium here.

    (Flowers at the local super, you know? $5? That's romantic. I've swooned over an unexpected bouquet of flowers before.)
    Romance is such a relative term...so hard to define. I know I don't want to be pinned down to tradition and all that, but at the same time those are reliable symbols that mean a lot to most people. I think the thought behind it should mean more- no matter the price.

    They have $5 flowers somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kendoiwan View Post
    All the "He went to Jarred" commercials and Zales "make a memory" commercials say your NT practicality is in the minority on these matters.
    Assuming he could afford the 17G's in the first place, that's not even all that much money to spend on a ring relatively. That won't even cover most weddings these days...

    Not that I'dve done it but that's besides the point.
    Actually spending 17k at Jarred's is like spending 9,10K on a jeweler's row. They mark up their stuff.

    I'm going to bet he couldn't afford it. That's probably why he wants it back. That's a whole lotta bread to let someone walk away with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    After a quick check of the law in NY (it does vary from state to state on this issue) it does appear that engagement rings are considered conditional gifts. Since she broke the engagement she has to return the ring upon request. The birthday thing kind of throws a loop in it... it may get her a little bit more out of the settlement although ultimately I think its irrelevant. Bottom line they should sell the ring and split it 75/25 man/woman... there is no way this should actually go to court.
    Right, it isn't just any other gift...I don't give a birthday present and expect it to be returned to me once they die. The engagement ring represents an informal contract: it signifies intent to marry. No marriage, no ring...no?



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