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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    "Untouched by the breath of God, unrestricted by human conscience, both capitalism and socialism are repulsive."
    --Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
    "All authority of any kind, especially in the field of thought and understanding, is destructive and evil. Leaders destroy the followers and the followers destroy the leaders. You have to be your own teacher and your own disciple. You have to question everything that man has accepted as valuable, as necessary."
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    They had a Tea Party rally on Boston Common yesterday. It was really fascinating to see. I'd say it was equally split between the following:
    • Tea Party and supporters
    • Assorted opposition
    • Curious onlookers


    I liked that there were extreme people protesting all of these different causes from all across the ideological spectrum, and I liked that there was a lot of dialogue going on. And I liked the gentleman sitting topless on the grass who told me he was "getting high for Palin" and that I should take a picture of him.

    Apparently Scott Brown declined an invitation to the rally.



    Anyway, that is all I have to contribute to this conversation, I guess...
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    I want to go to a rally someday and hold up a non sequitur sign. I guess I'll have plenty of chances to do that in college.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    What's your point?
    He likes tendentious Times polls.

    "In several other respects, however -- their age, educational background, employment status, and race -- Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public at large."

    Come to think of it, Jeff, were any polls run on the puppeteer-ANSWER hordes that protested OIF and George W. Bush in general? Under 30, suburbanite, matriculated sound about right. Oh, also frumpy and manifestly Boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htb View Post
    Come to think of it, Jeff, were any polls run on the puppeteer-ANSWER hordes that protested OIF and George W. Bush in general? Under 30, suburbanite, matriculated sound about right. Oh, also frumpy and manifestly Boomer.
    I just wonder why it's something to point out. Even if ALL the members of this particular movement were "wealthy, old, religious white people," why would that matter? Are those people supposed to not have an opinion about the direction of the country/federal government? How poor do you have to be in order to be justified in feeling marginalized? Or how un-white? Or non-religious?

    If that implication isn't intended, then I still don't understand what the point is in bringing up these traits of these particular people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    It's amusing to me that the left can oppose the marginalization of minorities out of one side of its mouth, and dismiss the Tea Partiers as irrelevant (or worse, deserving of whatever they get) out of the other.

    Along with tolerance-as-doctrine comes the list of who we're tolerating, and who we're not.

    [snort]
    What left? What minorities? What marginalisation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    "Untouched by the breath of God, unrestricted by human conscience, both capitalism and socialism are repulsive."
    --Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
    The crisis in personal responsibility and other similar cultural themes has made capitalism or socialism impossible, they only matter as ideologies to a select few, for remarkably similar reasons I'm willing to wager too. :workout::workout:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    The crisis in personal responsibility and other similar cultural themes has made capitalism or socialism impossible, they only matter as ideologies to a select few, for remarkably similar reasons I'm willing to wager too. :workout::workout:
    Socialism and communism are synonymous with atheism for many people in the US because of the Soviet treatment of Christians (or at least the propaganda that was fed to Americans regarding the Soviet treatment of Christians), and many believe that if the US moves in that direction, we'll start sending Christians to gulags as well. The Cold War propaganda machine was very successful.

    I can't wait for the baby boomers to die off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Socialism and communism are synonymous with atheism for many people in the US because of the Soviet treatment of Christians (or at least the propaganda that was fed to Americans regarding the Soviet treatment of Christians), and many believe that if the US moves in that direction, we'll start sending Christians to gulags as well. The Cold War propaganda machine was very successful.

    I can't wait for the baby boomers to die off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Socialism and communism are synonymous with atheism for many people in the US because of the Soviet treatment of Christians (or at least the propaganda that was fed to Americans regarding the Soviet treatment of Christians), and many believe that if the US moves in that direction, we'll start sending Christians to gulags as well. The Cold War propaganda machine was very successful.

    I can't wait for the baby boomers to die off.
    I approve of this statement.


    Also major corporations fund both Democrats and Republicans. The only difference between a republican candidate and a Democratic candidate is their area of focus. Republicans focus on foreign policy and democrats will focus on the economy. In the end we are screwed over every single time.

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