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    Quote Originally Posted by Fecal McAngry View Post
    No, Victor. Other countries can and will stop buying American debt. And soon, I suspect.
    People mistake the USA for the global corporations that have up until now used USA as their base of operation. Next stop China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    It's not semantics at all. If one does not understand the difference between the Constitution of 1787 (and a working understanding of the Federalist Papers) and the Articles of Confederation and more importantly WHY, then one doesn't really understand USA history enough to have an educated opinion on anything pertaining to it.
    Never said it was an "educated" opinion.
    It's a humanistic opinion, because I know how things are elsewhere, and I know how things are in the U.S now.
    To us over here, it's just frustrating how you cannot seem to understand something so obvious.

    Greed and healthcare aren't compatible, and it is a human right.

    Mightier than the tread of marching armies is the power of an idea whose time has come

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    People mistake the USA for the global corporations that have up until now used USA as their base of operation. Next stop China.
    It's really quite obnoxious. It's like they forget that there are people living here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Peguy, why aren't you defending my honor?
    I always thought that was Blackmail!'s job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    I always thought that was Blackmail!'s job.
    Blackmail! verses Victor seems like a conflict of interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    C'mon, you have two Parties of business. You have no social democratic party.

    Effectively you are a One Party State funded by business.

    And rather than being free from dependence upon political patrons, you are dependent on the patronage of business.

    After all, the business of America is business.
    :rolleyes2:

    Yes, Victor, "business" is a self-aware hive-mind that controls everyone who supports different variations of rights-based political principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    I always thought that was Blackmail!'s job.
    Well right now it's your job because he's not here to fulfill his duties! Get on it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    :rolleyes2:

    Yes, Victor, "business" is a self-aware hive-mind that controls everyone who supports different variations of rights-based political principles.
    There is no true left and right in the USA at that level, there is just campaign contributions and business interest.

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    Left and Right are largely relics of 19th century politics anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Basically, they can. It doesn't happen quite as often as you might think. I suppose this might be because by the time the other party gets in power, it might have such a large of host of other problems knocking on its door that it can't bother with repealing (which never seems very impressive to the public) some old bill.

    With some reforms, like the new deal reforms or the great society reforms, they become some popular and politically symbolic that undoing them is extremely risky for any politician.

    It does happen though. It can be a bit like a game of table tennis.
    Ah I suppose. I've heard that both parties have wanted this in one form or another for a long while, so maybe they'll be happy to sit on it after making a strong show of opposition. Or at least not have the momentum to bother overturning it.

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