Well. It wasn't as much of a reform as I had hoped, but it was a step in the right direction.
It's kind of fun how people all seem to agree that working together towards a common goal is a good thing...
And taking care of each other is a good thing... Christianity preaches this...
Yet... The most tight-pursed nay-sayers and anti-humanists tend to be from the Christian Right.
Christianity isn't something bad at all, and in reality it preaches what some call Socialism.
People seem to think America does not need anything beyond the first Constitution from 1776...
Well, let me remind you that people owned slaves back then and did a lot of other horrible things...
Beating women and children lawfully...
If one does not realize that society can't be like that, and one cannot hold onto relics that are completely out of touch with reality and the needs of a people...
Have fun, and watch it all go down.
The south went to war because they didn't want their cheap labor to effectively become human.
This is the exact same thing. It's those on the bottom of the pyramid that needs these rights.
If things would be more fair, this bill would include all the "illegal" immigrants working your fields, gardens and construction sites.
Without them, your dearly beloved country would not work...
But as I said, this is at least a step in the right direction.
Mightier than the tread of marching armies is the power of an idea whose time has come
I'm divided on this bill. The cynical, pragmatic part of me is somewhat relieved that it passed, just so that Obama can claim some sort of victory (Although the democratic leadership, including him, has totally dropped the ball, I still have *some* hope for his presidency... and none whatsoever in whatever candidate the Republicans are likely to endorse in 2012). But I'm really very disappointed in the specifics. That's the *best* they could do? Massive overhaul of the entire system, along the lines of "Medicare for everyone, and now let's fund it properly" (and decrease other expenditures -- like foreign military adventures and defense spending, for one) would have been a good start. The "handout to the insurance industry" is pretty offensive in comparison. What hope I have for it is that it's a foot in the door to something real. But I doubt it. The cynic in me suspects that the provisions that aren't immediate (2014 for insuring adults with preexisting conditions, etc.) will be gutted before they ever take place, and we'll wind up paying more for less. Disappointing.
Originally Posted by heart
People can't afford health insurance because the industry costs are out of control. What do our law makers do about it? Make it mandatory to purchase health insurance. I don't see any good coming out of this and I consider myself a liberal.
Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou
This is why I'm so upset with this bill. As Yoda says, do or do not. There is no try I see little benefit to putting a Band-Aid on a slashed artery, because not only doesn't it work, but it sends the message that only a Band-Aid is needed. The bigger problem is that half the country sees a slashed artery and half sees a perfectly intact one.
Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan
Healthcare strikes me as one of those things that really needs to be public. Even if it is not explicitly handled by a pbulic institution, then the private ones that handle it need to be closely overseen by the public ones.
I have a hard time believing that anyone would place more trust in for-profit organizations than non-profit (public in this case) ones when it comes to health care. Every dollar of profit is a dollar that someone paid for health care that goes instead into an "investor" (or middleman, or bureaucrat policy-denier, etc.) pocket is an injustice. Now I admit to being of a more socialistic bent than most, but even I have to admit that "profit" (over and above "a fair day's pay") is an incentive for some people... but in exchange for the health and lives of others? Not worth it.
Originally Posted by Victor
Effectively you are a One Party State funded by business.
OH NO IT IS A TRUE SIGN OF THE APOCALYPSE EVERYONE GET TO THE BUNKER!!!
It's more like making love.
You can take the patriarchal route and get to the point. Or you can take the tantric route and enjoy the journey.
Of course we are more laid back here in Oz and we have the time to enjoy one another.
Can you imagine making love with someone and hearing them say, "Hurry up, hurry up! Get to the point!".
The slow food movement has taught us to savour and enjoy fine dining. And so the slow love movement, the tantric movement, teaches us to savour and enjoy making love to one another. Indeed teaches us to enjoy one another.
Lets see, social security and medicare are about to go bankrupt, the economy sucks, inflation is already around the corner as a result of the not-so-stimulant stimulus bill, and the Democrats think its a good idea to create yet another massive entitlement program with an exponentially increasing price-tag; to say that I'm pissed is a mild understatement.
Edit: Looking ahead, there seems to be two realistic options; getting a Republican congress and President in 2012, or having the Supreme Court strike it down
By far the most realistic option is that the US will simply go bankrupt and cease to exist, a la ancient Rome, the USSR, etc.