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    Infanticide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Infanticide seems such a strange topic for an American to consider, being we're so culturally baby obsessed... The US Department of Defense has often made up rumors about babies being harmed by the opponents soldiers in time of war.

    Europes a bit different and there are specific laws governing Infanticide which have evolved over time. It's a gruesome topic, but it is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sLiPpY View Post
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    You can only fit so many down the mines. Then what are you supposed to do with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    You can only fit so many down the mines. Then what are you supposed to do with them?
    Send them to clean the filth off of factory machinery with their nimble little fingers.

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    how did she get away with this?

    i mean, unless the woman was a total recluse, how could people not have noticed her being pregnant and then never being seen with the babies or toddlers at all? this went on for 7 years.

    i also wonder what her living son experienced.

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    I am a little confused as to how she had SIX newborns, that she gave birth to at home, and Luc Margueritte is only the father of the last one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    I am a little confused as to how she had SIX newborns, that she gave birth to at home, and Luc Margueritte is only the father of the last one?
    LOL. Over the period of 7 years, if that helps your confusion.

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    There's alot of factors to consider in any case... especially emotionally charged ones like these.

    Alot of the time people panic and go ZOMG BURN THE WITCH! without having any clue as to whot actually is going on.

    For example, the whole 'sued mcdonald's because their coffee was too hot!' thing was actually pretty complex of a case, since yes, the person was stupid enough to hold the coffee in their lap between their legs with NO LID.

    On the other hand, the coffee was scalding hot, about 40 degrees F (about 22C or so) hotter than it would've made any sense at all to be... to the point that it would've had to've been left to cool for over 30 minutes just to cool down to being "still too hot to drink".

    Sentencing can go in weird ways, and people can get charged for stuff yeu wouldn't think would make sense at all... while other times things that yeu think should deserve gross punishment aren't given so.

    Keep in mind that the USA also has a brute force mentality... if it's emotionally charged, people think yeu should be 'punished' by being given an abnormally long sentence, as if somehow this corrects the problem better. In cases where there's psychological issues or other things that get in the way, just doubling the length of time they're imprisoned for will have literally zero effect, other than making people who are clueless and have no relevance to the case happy. The purpose of the courts is not to placate the ignorant masses with silly "zomg lock her away for 7,000,000 years!" sentences just to make people happy, but rather to try to rehabilitate the individual so they don't pull that crap again so they can go back to living a normal life, or, if that doesn't seem to be a likely scenario, to try to keep them the hell away from everyone else that they may cause problems to.

    The idea of "beat them senseless until they aren't bad anymore" isn't really all that useful of a mindset in the long run, and it really has minimal effectiveness, not to mention is a pain to try to implement... why do yeu think the states' penitentiaries are overflowing with too many inmates and eventually leading to injuries of staff, and in some of the more crowded ones, gang wars? Because yeu're being heavy handed and throwing people in jail for years at a time for simple and small mistakes to "teach them a lesson", when all that's accomplished is wasting space and money on them, and they didn't learn crap all more from 5 years in prison for a minor offense, than they would've from 3 months, other than that they now have been forced to learn how to survive in the prison and have learned how to use weapons and do alot of crap yeu don't want them knowing, and probably getting hooked on some hard end drugs. The lesson yeu want taught is "Don't do this crap anymore". 3 months is generally enough for most people to go "Okei I seriously don't want to go back there again". For some situations, there are those who need longer measures, as they will consider such a joke. And some who just don't accept such as a punishment. And there are those who locking them away for 10 years will just mean, as soon as they get out, they will do another crime just to get back in as they're so removed from their lives anymore that they don't know how to live without being in jail any longer.


    Sometimes yeu need to just remove someone who yeu flat out can't fix... most of the time though, a longer sentence really doesn't have any direct correlation at all to whether the person will learn anything more from it.

    How does someone sitting and thinking about whot they've done for 10 years make them more likely to change than had they done it for 5 years? A year is a really long time... making the sentence longer has no difference at all in terms of punishment that it'll somehow magically make them act better when they leave. The only purpose for longer punishments are:

    A: to make it so someone who needs care and psychological counciling is forced to stay until they have been given enough time to work on the issue, or

    B: to keep someone out of reach of anyone they could be a hazard to.

    If neither of these apply to the situation at hand, then making them stay longer is a waste of everyone's time and money. Either dispose of them if they can't be cured (serial killers), or get them out of the system as soon as they realize they're not going to pull that crap again.




    A great example is a man who killed his daughter who was ill and retarded... she was suffering every day and was little more than an animal as she had pretty much no conscious thought at all. He killed her out of love in the way one would put a cherished family pet out of their misery. He was forced to accept 10 years imprisonment for manslaughter because there was no legal recourse to give him any less. When he gets out of jail... he would still have done the exact same thing in the same situation. Giving him a 10 year sentence was pointless; it served no purpose to anyone and didn't rehabilitate, nor punish. Regardless of whether he was right or not is even a moot point; it would not have changed anything, and would not affect future decisions. Turning it into a 20 year sentence would not have made him any more remorseful, nor would a 5 year sentence turn him into a bloodthirsty killer.

    Unfortunately, most of us are stupid. We act on animalistic emotions. We hear someone did something bad, or at least it sounds bad the way it's told to us by the media, and go "ZOMG THROW AWAY THE KEY" but never actually stop to think about whether locking someone up for life would actually DO anything beneficial to anyone at all. For the most part, longer sentences don't help to correct people any more than lighter sentences do. 10 years locked away from the world is about the same as 20 years locked away from the world; once yeu get down to just taking it 1 day at a time, the years blend together and there is no difference any longer. So why exactly do we think we know more about a case we saw 2 paragraphs about listed by a biased newspaper, than the people who sat through a month of evidence and courtroom sittings to get a full grasp of whot happened?

    The evidence suggests we are stupid.

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