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    Quote Originally Posted by xNTP View Post
    I doubt he really took off 20%, unless of course she turned it in late, which sort of explains everything.
    A teacher should not call a child a loser for turning a late paper. It's just unprofessional. If this story is true, the guy belongs somewhere else than teaching children. He has no prudence, no judgement.

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    This problem could be cleared up if the girl stopped being such a loser.

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    Personally, I think it is a very unproductive, ineffective way of dealing with the problem - what did he hope to accomplish by calling the child a loser?

    If he has a problem with the child, it is important to communicate with the child and the parents primarily and the school principal in the long run if things do not change. By writing such unprofessional comments (in black and white!!!) you're really damaging the kid's self-esteem and your own position.

    Instead, I would have tried to encourage the child to do better. Maybe something's going on at home that explains the poor marks. Maybe she's having trouble with the subject and needs extra help. Maybe she has poor esteem and needs some kind of extra support.

    Speaking of which, I really do not think this kind of help falls under the category of 'being a friend or buddy' to pupils. Instead, I think it's kind of acting like a catalyst to help students improve.

    Regarding adult education, I think you need to adjust your methods according to the group you teach. Some people want a no-nonsense teacher who is all business. Others want someone who is open, responsive, and cares about their people; as a teacher, you need to know who needs what and not force it.

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    I'm as quick as any parent to go into protective mode, but I don't like how there is very little context presented in this situation. Sometimes the best teachers are gruff and tease and joke around with the kids.

    My son's first grade teacher called him a nut-head and a little monster, etc and she absolutely loves him and he loves her. I would trust her with his life in a heartbeat and when he had to change schools she called and told them that they had better take good care of him or that I would be up there and so would she.

    Context is really important.
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    It's unprofessional. There's no context to change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    It's unprofessional. There's no context to change that.
    What is professional?

    Sometimes these kinds of remarks, whether they are made from student to teacher or teacher to student, indicate a close bond between the two individuals in the same way that a brother gives his younger sibling a noogy, but still loves him at the end of the day.

    It is by breaking the strict mold of professionality that we are able to know each other this closely.

    So you have to ask yourself : Was the teacher being benevolent or malevolent?

    Does this matter? I think this context matters.

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    Thing is though, it's a lot harder to imagine a proper context for "You're a loser!" actually written onto someone's paper in red ink than it is to imagine a proper context for jokingly calling a student a nut-head in a spirit of comradery.

    We have the entire context. There isn't anything else when it's just a disparaging remark written onto a paper that gets handed back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater Typhoon View Post
    What is professional?

    Sometimes these kinds of remarks, whether they are made from student to teacher or teacher to student, indicate a close bond between the two individuals in the same way that a brother gives his younger sibling a noogy, but still loves him at the end of the day.

    It is by breaking the strict mold of professionality that we are able to know each other this closely.

    So you have to ask yourself : Was the teacher being benevolent or malevolent?

    Does this matter? I think this context matters.
    A teacher acting like a "younger brother" is clearly unprofessional.

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    I bet Mr. Teacher has some deep-rooted issues and complexes he'd like to compensate for. Perhaps he was bullied in high school.

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