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    I finally got up the whatever to click on the link, and the picture of the dog behind bars made me tear up, so I'm not going to watch the video.

    My head agrees with teh Poriferan. My heart says wrong wrong wrong.

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    You know, scientists have been developing the ability to grow flesh without animals. Right now, simple stuff like skin and chicken livers have been created. It will be a long while before we can start growing spare ribs or something, but it's well within the realm of plausibility.

    Tell me, would that not be a huge solution to both humane and ecological concerns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Tell me, would that not be a huge solution to both humane and ecological concerns?
    Humane, yes... ecological, well, yes and no. It will still be resource-intensive, and will still require nutrients supplied by a disproportionate area of arable land to grow the vat-meat.

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    It's made of PEEEEPUL!

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    The thing that stands out for me with dogs in particular is that most of them have been specifically bred as companion animals and to love and trust us, then we go and eat them, seems wrong.

    But say take dolphins, I see no diference between eating wild dolphin and eating wild boar.
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    Except that dolphins are mammals, and very intelligent, and we're polluting them out of existence as it is. To kill them for food on top of it just seems cruel. It's not like there's nothing else to eat.

    ETA: I know boars are mammals, too. And we're probably polluting them out of existence, too.

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    Pigs (boars) are smart too!
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    You're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Actually, it was known among the mountain men and pioneers in the US that puma (a.k.a. mountain lion or cougar) meat was the best game meat available... truly delicious.

    The meat of wild true carnivores is more consistent and generally better than that of wild omnivores. Omnivores (including dogs) are given to scavenging, eating carrion and rummaging through garbage heaps. For this reason, although bear meat is widely eaten by hunters in North America, the quality of the meat varies hugely depending on what they've been eating. If you were to kill a brown bear during the salmon run... not sure that's legal anyway, I don't think the seasons overlap... you wouldn't want the meat.
    I just remember biology professor saying predators are a poor source of nutrition compared to herbivoires. (I don't know if I spelt that right folks, my mind is mush today)

    But you know, eating cats and dogs is a cultural issue. Here in the USA, I'd be scared of someone who was able to eat a cat or a dog just because we are raised up here to see them as companion animals. It is the same principle as the felony animal abuse laws. Someone who raised here who can make the leap to abuse or eat cats and dogs, well they just might be psychopaths.

    Not the same dynamic at work in China.

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    I must admit I feel the same way about people who would eat dolphins.

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