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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    What's the biggest way you think public schools enforce a statist view, or a view that centralized government control over economic planning/policy is good?

    I went to one, so I'll tell you if it's true or not.
    I went to one myself, so thanks for the offer, but it's unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    I went to one myself, so thanks for the offer, but it's unnecessary.
    I bet you can't name one statist view enforcement thing they all do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I bet you can't name one statist view enforcement thing they all do.
    I started to write a lengthy reply, but I decided that it's wiser for me to quit playing on the Internet and actually get some work done today. I am at work, you know. It's better that I not allow myself to be baited in any event, especially from someone who's such a master at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    I started to write a lengthy reply, but I decided that it's wiser for me to quit playing on the Internet and actually get some work done today. I am at work, you know. It's better that I not allow myself to be baited in any event, especially from someone who's such a master at it.
    Translation: "I got nuthin"

    You know just one quick example would be fine, no need to get wordy. But alright, you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Translation: "I got nuthin"

    You know just one quick example would be fine, no need to get wordy. But alright, you don't have to.
    Classy as always. :rolli:

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Classy as always. :rolli:
    It's that dirty public school education.

    I have no morals anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    My first two kids took to reading like ducks to water. My third child, not so much. In kindergarten, he got so frustrated with basic phonics that he would be shedding angry tears within fifteen minutes.

    We backed off and let him learn other things for a few months, while looking around for a curriculum we thought would engage him. We found a set of readers published by Veritas Press, readers that combined a sequential approach to phonics with historical stories presented in simple language. We went back at it in the first grade, and it it was like turning on a light... he suddenly seemed to just "get it." We've been shoveling the books at him ever since.

    My three eldest all have their own well-worn library cards. My town has a very large brand-new library within walking distance of our house, and we make rigorous use of it.
    Both of mine have been eager to learn to read. But I've known kids (mostly boys) who just weren't developmentally ready to read in K, and needed just a little extra time. They almost always pick it up in first like your son did. Most of these inequities tend to shake out by third grade anyway and it becomes difficult to tell the early readers from the leisurely ones. The school we chose for our oldest child allowed children to learn to read at their own pace, within reason. Actually, it was one of the reasons we chose it- although G was already reading anyway, the low-pressure philosophy carried over into other areas as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    It's interesting about schools... if you send your child to a Catholic school, you expect that he'll be exposed to Catholicism. If you send him to a Jewish school, you expect he'll be taught from a Jewish perspective. If you send him to a Baptist school, you expect that he'll receive an education flavored with Baptist doctrine and tradition...

    ...so it's natural to expect that, when sent to a state school, children are educated from a statist point of view.
    Wow, this is one of the most flawed pieces of reasoning I've ever seen. We're not in China, the State (with capital S) is not something people need to have faith in. Furthermore, most western nation constitutionally define themselves as being strictly secural, thus they're (generally) forbidden from providing faith-related services, school included.
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    First this:

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Wow, this is one of the most flawed pieces of reasoning I've ever seen.
    Then this:

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    We're not in China, the State (with capital S) is not something people need to have faith in. Furthermore, most western nation constitutionally define themselves as being strictly secural, thus they're (generally) forbidden from providing faith-related services, school included.
    Oh, the irony.

    I am not aware of a first-world nation that does not have both compulsory education and public-funded, government-administered schools.

    While I agree with you that the state (whether the S is capital or lowercase) is not something that people should have faith in, I also see that a great many people in the world put a great deal of faith in the State nonetheless. I personally believe that this faith is unfounded.

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    Crap, I'm on this thread too much again.

    I WILL LEAVE IT ALONE.

    Really!

    Maybe!

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