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  • Believer / Politically Right / AGW is not proved

    5 14.29%
  • Unbeliever / Politically Right / AGW is not proved

    2 5.71%
  • Believer / Politically Left / AGW is not proved

    2 5.71%
  • Unbeliever / Politically Left / AGW is not proved

    3 8.57%
  • Believer / Politically Right / AGW likely

    1 2.86%
  • Unbeliever / Politically Right / AGW likely

    5 14.29%
  • Believer / Politically Left / AGW likely

    7 20.00%
  • Unbeliever / Politically Left / AGW likely

    10 28.57%
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    With the possible exception of nuclear power (which has its own set of problems and limitations), existing alternative energy sources are almost always a net economic drain.
    But...Obama's rhetoric is so soaring! How can you not believe his beautiful fictions???!!

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    I don't understand the first question.
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    Undecided/politically centre/AGW is a realistic concern but there is no way the predictions are as solid as they keep pretending they are.
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    Subtle, but a loaded question. Global warming claims aren't academic bodies of knowledge and theory, such as evolution or astronomy; they underwrite leftist/anti-industrial policy and social engineering.

    Nice try, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    And in the already utopian event that you could even get countries like China or India to even sign up for some theoretically effective concerted global action, what do you propose be done about the inevitable defections from international regulatory regimes by those very same countries? All of these factors will lead to a net increase of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere.
    For the reasons mentioned above (all part of human nature), among other factors, I've been thinking we're seriously and inevitably screwed for quite some time. And ironically I am now advocating the same inactivity as rightwingers but for different reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fecal McAngry View Post
    No option for libertarians? Pity.

    No (as defined), Small-l libertarian, no (if this is a yes-or-no question).
    = Unbeliever/Right/AGW not proven

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    Unbeliever / Left / AGW not proven


    Unbeliever as in agnostic (I don't categorize it the same way, but I stick to the OP), left is rather clear. As with AGW, I certainly don't rule out the possibility, but the fact in what way this theory is spread (id est by pure power of authority and masses rather than by facts), I remain skeptical about this.

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    to be more specific- I'm not an atheist, merely an agnostic

    and I beleive in anthropogenic global climate instability instead of global warming... it seems considerably more likely after having read literature on the topic and having done some climate modeling!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    to be more specific- I'm not an atheist, merely an agnostic

    and I beleive in anthropogenic global climate instability instead of global warming... it seems considerably more likely after having read literature on the topic and having done some climate modeling!
    Instability seems more likely than warming. If you way warming people are still complaining that it's fucking cold. Oh yeah, and apparently it's the apocalypse because Europe is starting to get some small tornadoes.
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    I actually wrote a paper on it a while back focusing on the hurricane in brazil as the main object... not to mention oddly dry and wet seasons in farming regions (kinna like monsoons )- droughts, floods, some places getting colder and some warmer...

    interestingly, when you actually do research into cause and effect these can all be explained with the same cause given by the global warming people- only it's generally agreed in the field now (in the US anyways) that instability is more likely
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