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    I have to wonder how many 5-10 year olds are going to get sent to juvie now if asking a cop why is considered contempt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    I gathered that. I was agreeing with your common law statement.

    I think both sides are pretty stupid.
    Stupid is one thing. Illegal and morally wrong is something else.

    We can't allow this kind of abuse of power to happen even to the stupid if we want to be free to stand harmlessly on a public sidewalk ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    Stupid is one thing. Illegal and morally wrong is something else.

    We can't allow this kind of abuse of power to happen even to the stupid if we want to be free to stand harmlessly on a public sidewalk ourselves.
    I don't entirely disagree with that.

    I wonder how frequently something like this happens, given the popularity of the event in question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    I don't entirely disagree with that.

    I wonder how frequently something like this happens, given the popularity of the event in question making news.
    I don't know, but I do know that several years ago while I was attending community college my instructor got a speeding ticket on his way to work. He was late to class and it inspired a discussion about law enforcement. There were several black young men in my class and all of them believed that having your vehicle searched was standard procedure for a traffic stop. They were as shocked to learn that it wasn't as I was to learn that they were the victims of illegal search as a matter of course.

    I've had one bad experience with the police myself, so I know it all depends on how they perceive you and how powerless they consider you. Being a small, plain-looking, working class white woman, I imagine that there is a lot more bad stuff going on than I am directly aware of because I don't fit a negative profile under normal circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    I don't know, but I do know that several years ago while I was attending community college my instructor got a speeding ticket on his way to work. He was late to class and it inspired a discussion about law enforcement. There were several black young men in my class and all of them believed that having your vehicle searched was standard procedure for a traffic stop. They were as shocked to learn that it wasn't as I was to learn that they were the victims of illegal search as a matter of course.

    I've had one bad experience with the police myself, so I know it all depends on how they perceive you and how powerless they consider you. Being a small, plain-looking, working class white woman, I imagine that there is a lot more bad stuff going on than I am directly aware of because I don't fit a negative profile under normal circumstances.
    You make some good points. While I hope this type of profiling is the exception to the rule, I have to wonder just how prevalent this "demographic targeting" really is.

    Still, it could be the same cognitive priniciple that has one remember the single instance of bad customer service, rather than the many times they received appropriate/positive service.

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    What are the races of the people involved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    What are the races of the people involved?
    And what are the races of the officers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    And what are the races of the officers?
    The race of most cops is blue.
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    I read the title of the article and immediately guessed it would be false. I know most news is 50% falsehoods, 50% exaggeration, quoting out of context, not even giving the context, and pure opinion, but when it involves the police it becomes even more extreme. Almost as extreme as science and statistics news.

    It's one of those cases where the title is denied by the article itself, which sets off the alarms on its own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erm View Post
    I read the title of the article and immediately knew it would be false. I know most news is 50% falsehoods, 50% exaggeration, quoting out of context, not even giving the context, and pure opinion, but when it involves the police it becomes even more extreme. Almost as extreme as science and statistics news.

    It's one of those articles where the title is denied by the article itself, which sets off the alarms anyway.
    The article itself is also written in an emotionally slanted fashion.

    My question to anyone else who noticed, does the realization of inborn bias subtract from the incident itself? Or, are you unable to appropriately glean exactly what transpired as a result of the editorializing?

    Or, conversely, does it not bother you at all?

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