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    There's nothing wrong with spying on 15yo students. Jesus, you people are so paranoid.
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    brb getting this set up on gf's laptop.



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    It's illegal, the court will find as such, as far as "monitoring" in the home goes. Whether or not it's legal if the laptop is found to be stolen, I'm not sure. Personally, I'd say you're navigating very risky waters there....they're pretty damn strict with the child pornography enforcement. Just make the parents/student pay if they lose the laptop, or pay the few bucks a year for Lojack for laptops.

    As far as the school district goes, it's idiotic, but stuff like this is common. Not because of malicious intent, but school IT departments don't tend to pay too well, are understaffed, overworked, and not where "talented" professionals desire to work. As a result, you get a lot of stuff that's done halfassed and not thought through, with no review process besides the IT guy conferring with the one or two other IT guys on if it's a good idea. I doubt it was done maliciously, unless you've got a pedophile IT person.
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    Analysis of the LANRev software used to spy at Harriton High continues

    School administrator boasts to PBS about his laptop spying Boing Boing

    A few weeks ago, Frontline premiered a documentary called "Digital Nation". In one segment, the vice-principle of Intermediate School 339, Bronx, NY, Dan Ackerman, demonstrates how he "remotely monitors" the students' laptops for "inappropriate use". (his demonstration begins at 4:36)

    He says "They don't even realize we are watching," "I always like to mess with them and take a picture," and "9 times out of 10, THEY DUCK OUT OF THE WAY."

    He says the students "use it like it's a mirror" and he watches. He says 6th and 7th graders have their cameras activated. It looks like the same software used by the Pennsylvania school that is being investigated for covertly spying on students through their webcams.

    The shocking thing about this is that the privacy concerns were not even mentioned in the Frontline documentary!

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    Wow, heart, did you watch that video? It's pretty awesome.

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    This is a different situation. The school in this video is using Apple Remote Desktop, clearly during school hours and on the school's network. (ARD doesn't work too well remotely.) There is a big, BIG difference between looking for inappropriate activity during school hours on campus and what happened in PA. This school is using standard Apple software that's available to any IT shop that wants it. Apple - Remote Desktop 3

    Is someone going to argue that IM is a legitimate use of class time? I fail to see how this is in any way stunting anyone's intellectual development. If you're goofing off in class, whether by playing with your hair with the webcam, IMing your friends or doodling in your notebook, you're not exactly engaged in real learning.
    The kids know they can be monitored in that situation, too, which he was making the point of with the picture of the webcam.

    Like I said, I really just think this is a new medium. Rather than a bunch of lawsuits I really hope people just learn to use technology productively. If you look at the stats on that PBS documentary it's amazing.

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    For me there's a creepy factor about cameras on school kids. You may know it can watch you, but not when it is. It isn't like a teacher in classroom.

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    Yeah, that's why I'm trying to say is that schools need to have better thought out rules while using technology in productive ways. It's like growing pains.

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