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    In a surprising twist the Christians Fundies have exported their desire to inflict their beliefs on everyone to Australia

    "As a Christian, I do not agree with the idea of homosexuality. That's the reality. I can't put it any other way," Mr Curtis told The Sunday Age yesterday.

    "I certainly could never change my views that homosexuality is a perversion, because it is a perversion."

    "I would be very much in favour of intelligent design being taught in public schools," Mr Curtis said. "Just as the theory of evolution is taught as well, in my view regrettably taught in science classes, because I think it's a theory and not a science."

    Homosexuality a perversion, says Lib candidate - FederalElection2007News

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    Australian Christian Lobby National Homepage

    "November 7, 2007 - 4:54PM

    Churches will receive "election packs" this week from the Australian Christian Lobby (ACL) aimed at helping Christian voters scrutinise the major parties' election promises.

    It's the latest example of the Christian lobby flexing its muscle in Australia's political arena.

    ACL managing director Jim Wallace said his organisation had sent out more than 5,800 election packs to churches of many denominations around Australia, including some in marginal seats.

    "The Christian constituency has been showing a strong interest in the upcoming election and this has been reflected in the number of churches wishing to receive the packs," Mr Wallace said in a statement."


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    “Legislating political honesty should therefore include means by which individuals desiring to enter parliament are apprised of the responsibilities expected of them both corporately and individually. These values should be drawn from scripture and could be specified by a working party of politicians and nominees from various Christian Churches. “ Jim :”Christian Theocracy” Wallace

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    The Aussie Secular party just got off the ground this year and you can check them out at the links below

    Secular Party of Australia Home Page
    Secular Party of Australia Election 2007
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    beware- you don't want to end up like the US!

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    beware- you don't want to end up like the US!
    The fundies want biblical law and once anyone points out that that means no professional sport on Sundays I think it will be the end of it.
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    if you end up you'll be unlucky like my state and have no alcohol sales on Sunday as well!

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    if you end up you'll be unlucky like my state and have no alcohol sales on Sunday as well!
    No beer or sport on a Sunday
    That would not go down well. :steam:
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    Aren't you already quite überreligious in Australia? I mean, aren't there always reports of films being banned in Australia for being abominations and stuff? AND Russel Crowe is Australian!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punggung View Post
    Aren't you already quite überreligious in Australia?
    No, quite the opposite.

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    I mean, aren't there always reports of films being banned in Australia for being abominations and stuff?
    No, not that I'm aware of
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    AND Russel Crowe is Australian!
    No, N.Zer I believe.

    And increasing number of people put down non religious on the census and the biggest demographic growth was amongst the younger generation.

    we just need some non religious M.Ps
    "The poll, by Galaxy, said 71 per cent believed same-sex de facto couples should be entitled to the same legal rights as heterosexual de facto couples."
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    Quote Originally Posted by darlets View Post
    No,... No,... No, N.Zer I believe. ...
    Well, three wrongs make no wrongs. So I'll never change my views! But I think it's a matter of definition about Crowe, he did spend half his childhood in Australia.

    OnT: Are christian politicians being milked for controversies a new phenomenon in Australia? Over here they've only been active for a couple of decades but they've already made great progress in emancipating gays and equalizing women by badly representing the opposing side. So if you are liberal minded you should welcome them and have them blog and announce their thoughts a lot, so they can't hide their more embarrasing views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punggung View Post
    Well, three wrongs make no wrongs. So I'll never change my views! But I think it's a matter of definition about Crowe, he did spend half his childhood in Australia.
    shhh, you weren't supposed to know that.

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    OnT: Are christian politicians being milked for controversies a new phenomenon in Australia?
    Religion been creeping into politics in Australia for the last ten years. Australians tend to ignore it though, like the article I posting about the candidate barely raised an eyebrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Punggung View Post
    Over here they've only been active for a couple of decades but they've already made great progress in emancipating gays and equalizing women by badly representing the opposing side. So if you are liberal minded you should welcome them and have them blog and announce their thoughts a lot, so they can't hide their more embarrasing views.
    Well the Christian lobby is full of young earth creationist which the general public don't really believe people like that exist and have trouble controlling their laughter when I point out they believe the world started 6000 years ago.

    Alot of moderate Christians dislike the Christian lobby because it makes them look bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darlets View Post
    No beer or sport on a Sunday
    That would not go down well. :steam:
    They never said anything about drinking beer, just buying it.


    As for Australians ignoring it, if Australian more extreme churches aren't growing quickly, it probably is something not to worry that much about, though should be watched. The U.S., if I have understood the information I have correctly, had fast growth of evangelical churches during the past few decades, which helped a lot in getting religious issues into politics.

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