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    Picture this. You are a General in the field making decisions about troop numbers. The President has stated publicly that we need to win this war. You know you need another 200,000 troops or so, maybe more, to win the war. You also know it would be politically inconvenient to make such a request. It would be politically embarrassing for the President to request such a large number of troops even though you, as a general, know that's what it will take. So instead you ask for 30,000 troops because you know that is a palatable number.

    Generals know they have to testify before congress to justify their strategic decisions. The President is their commander-in-chief. It's natural to want to be loyal to their commander-in-chief. Therefore, it seems logical that they may even be hesitant to be completely open with the President when making recommendations.

    This is the damage too much political interfere can do. Oversight is necessary but politics is a messy business and political interference is dangerous.

    Anyone who has seen Ben Bernanke speak about the economy can see he knows what he is talking about. He probably knows monetary policy as well as if not better than anyone else in the country. The theory may not be perfect. But would we rather have a bus driver or a monetary policy expert make the decisions right now? Bus drivers can get elected to congress if they have the gift of the gab.

    What we have now are politicians trashing Mr. Bernanke because they think they are tapping into populist rage.

    The real populist rage will be directed at these politicians when people realize what they have been doing. This is an effective weapon the other party can use to vote the current majority out of power. Don't play with fire unless you want to get burned.

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    I'm not sure where you are trying to take this discussion...

    I'm pretty sure it's widely accepted that US politics is geared towards elections and reelections. Politicians definitely use the popular issue of the day to put themselves in favor with voters, even if that means detriment to a person, an organization, or a mission.

    About oversight--Congressional oversight is a big inconvenience for intelligence and military matters, as well as economics.

    However, this is all based on self-interest and is to be expected. People will try to get power for themselves, as will institutions. In the US Congress, that means taking calculated measures and decisions to maximize chances of getting reelected.

    But the real problem is that the public is too ignorant and apathetic to know the difference. They just want their jobs, their families, and a stable US.
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    What if the reasons for fighting in the war in the first place weren't good enough?

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    How many of them have we killed for 3,000 of us?

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    The more we kill, the more terrorists we create.

    This is what happens when you try to fight an idea.

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    The only way to defeat an idea is with a better idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    The more we kill, the more terrorists we create.

    This is what happens when you try to fight an idea.
    It's not that clear cut. Moreover, the objective isn't to kill all our enemies. I don't why everyone thinks these bastards are invincible and winning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Take Five View Post
    I don't why everyone thinks these bastards are invincible and winning.
    Irrational hysteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Irrational hysteria.
    And the media that is either incompetent or politically motivated or both.
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    The public would get behind our troop commitments, if they had a better more important job to do there than they do here.

    You mean to say, that fighting overseas is more important than Mexican drug cartels killing our citizens HERE????

    This is what is nuts about this whole situation, it's like I'm the only one that sees this.

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