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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    If we legalize drugs, this problem could end itself.
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    People are going to do drugs, that has been true since mankind has known of their existence.

    Why fight human nature, and needlessly waste our money incarcerating nonviolent drug offenders.
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    An exception could be made for meth, and crack, and most non natural intoxicants.

    We would institute a test which could determine the ACTUAL harm/benefit of a drug, not this schedule 1 bullshit.
    All highly debatable and rather off topic. Perhaps you should make another thread for this.
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    I bet this is relevant to all the grieving mothers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    That should be how it is. Special ops and the CIA have more of the precision you need when dealing with these small and scattered groups. We know how the army completely blew capturing bin Laden in December 2001 in Tora Bora.
    Special ops are more tactical--they aren't used for long term strategic objectives. And politicians and the public will be hesitant to allow CIA assassinations. It's not like the movies. And locating the "bigs" in closed terrorist organizations is very difficult because of limited tactical intelligence coming in about them. Plus, there are all sorts of legal and bureaucratic hoops to go through in operations like this.
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    Special ops, and the CIA have the split second reaction time necessary to react to information in a changing environment.

    They are the perfect tool to combat a group as headless and fluid as terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Ok I'll bite.

    So, you are saying, that we don't need a justification for the ongoing slaughter of the people of a foreign nation?

    This is the problem with revenge, it's blind, and it never stops.
    I don't support any ongoing slaughter of the people of a foreign nation.
    Hell, just this morning I was complaining about Clinton never doing anything about Rwanda years ago.

    It's not as if we had many men in office with balls of steel.
    To this day, I maintain the same position I have for years.
    We had no business going to Iraq.

    GW got upset because Saddam threatened his Daddy's life.
    Before GW ever set foot in the White House, I told everyone:
    "He's going to go after Saddam." He did.

    Can I understand that type of loyalty to your Father? Yes.
    Would I allow innocent people to be killed, just to seek revenge?

    Never.

    What is ridiculous is how many people in the Bush Admin. forgot the name: Osama Bin Laden, so quickly.

    P.S. Explain to me why you keep posting one-line posts in succession.
    It looks like you are talking to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    I bet this is relevant to all the grieving mothers...
    I care too, but there are grieving mothers, and dead ones, on both issues.
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    There would be fewer of them if we had made smarter decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Special ops, and the CIA have the split second reaction time necessary to react to information in a changing environment.

    They are the perfect tool to combat a group as headless and fluid as terrorists.
    Not at all. CIA is far more limited than popular belief has it. This should be obvious, as it has been 8 years without catching Bin Laden and other top dogs. It's really not like the movies. The CIA is not everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    There would be fewer of them if we had made smarter decisions.
    I've said that for years, but it's a little late to be playing Monday Morning Quarterback.

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