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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    This is why we need politicians making our decisions, not our generals.
    Yup. That's the way it's suppose to be too. The President is the head of the military, and congress appropriates funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    There was no ongoing threat to our soil.

    No immediate threat that is.

    We should have secured our borders first, then gotten some offensive action in order.
    Al Qaeda didn't go out of business on 9/12. They have no intention of stopping attacks. And 9/11 wasn't the first.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    What is a bigger threat, having a porous southern border through which violent cartels traffic all manner of contraband, or a bunch of religious nuts half way around the world.
    The religious nuts are far more dangerous. Watch the tapes. They are anti-US and self-declared enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Take Five View Post
    Al Qaeda didn't go out of business on 9/12. They have no intention of stopping attacks. And 9/11 wasn't the first.



    The religious nuts are far more dangerous. Watch the tapes. They are anti-US and self-declared enemies.
    Yawn.

    Watch tapes of whats happening in Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Take Five View Post
    Well we should definitely pay attention to more than just Afghanistan and stop any terrorist organizational spreading. But the past and the present indicate that Afghanistan still needs to be a priority in denying Al Qaeda safe haven for the future. We need to be more proactive than reactive to the terrorists.
    In a non-existent world, we could focus adequately on Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen at the same time, but Afghanistan is absorbing our capabilities and making it so we can't. And it's not where the main threats are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Yawn.

    Watch tapes of whats happening in Mexico.
    I've seen some stuff, but nothing comes even close to the carnage in Manhatten and the Pentagon.
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    You wanna know how terrorists are gonna get in here?

    Through our southern border.

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    How many muslims is it going to take for you to be happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    In a non-existent world, we could focus adequately on Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen at the same time, but Afghanistan is absorbing our capabilities and making it so we can't. And it's not where the main threats are.
    Afghanistan and Iraq soak up a lot of our military capabilities, but not our political abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    You wanna know how terrorists are gonna get in here?

    Through our southern border.
    In an open society, people get in. I want more border security, that's not the disagreement. The disagreement is that the external threats are more pressing. And by being proactive instead of just waiting for another attack, we have severely disrupted Al Qaeda--that doesn't mean they can't come back stronger.
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    A threat here will always scare me more than a threat there.

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