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    Quote Originally Posted by erm View Post
    Do not consider whether they live or die is more accurate. In the case of Rape, murder, assault, muggings etc.

    Rapes, assault and murders aren't usually calculated, if they are, the person is usually convinced they can get away with it (and usually can up until the police step in), or they are desperate enough (e.g. poverty) that they don't care. Muggings are too easy to get away with in the short term regardless.
    That's what I'm trying to get across here. An armed citizen goes from a soft target to a hard target, i.e. deterent is increased.

    Also, I disagree with your statement that rapes, robberies, etc are not calculated crimes.

    Cars help benefit society in numerous ways, too numerous to count. Guns are for hobbies and killing/injuring, quite a limited benefit to most people.

    Taking transport away from individuals should have obvious negative effects on utility. I hope I don't have to elaborate on how they benefit society.
    You missed my point. I was talking about individual rights. Sometimes individual rights run counter to the "utility of society."
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    Post deleted, irrelevant content to American Gun Control topic...so.
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    you don't have to have a gun to be a hard target (but it doesn't hurt).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    The constitution might be slightly out of date. I don't suppose, when you write something, you expect it to be equally topical 222 years later, do you?

    Secondly, it should be obvious that your rights can only be maintined if authority chooses to respect them. Why, pray tell, would authorities respect a right to make it easier for you to rebel against them?
    Well your right as far as the 2nd amendment. It other areas the U.S. Constitution has worked fine as a "living document" supported by starie decisis. Until the court stops excluding the 2nd amendment from selective incorporation to be applicable to the states then it is outdated.

    We keep authorities in line by not letting them take away our rights bit by bit and leading us down the slippery slope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Again, I don't have the figures on me now, but that's not what I read.



    How would you record that?
    I don't know. I'm not the one relying on those statistics to make a point.
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