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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Sounds like none of you ignorant proles have read this book

    Class: A Guide Through the American Status System:Amazon:Books
    I've wanted to, I've just been too busy not failing out.

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    Class has a lot of elements. Where you are born, what you're heritage is, and how much money your parents have are the three biggest factors in your class.

    And is it important? It's the most important variable of your identity. It will have a strong influence on every endeavor you can attempt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Class has a lot of elements. Where you are born, what you're heritage is, and how much money your parents have are the three biggest factors in your class.

    And is it important? It's the most important variable of your identity. It will have a strong influence on every endeavor you can attempt.
    Why would that be an important factor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    Why would that be an important factor?
    First of all, I didn't say it should be, I said it is.

    Secondly, a lot of your class identity is shaped be where you came from. Associations are made toward certain areas, and you carry those associations with you. Further more, there's actually a strong relationship between where you live, and what you're opportunities are.
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    There is another factor.

    How old is the money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    First of all, I didn't say it should be, I said it is.

    Secondly, a lot of your class identity is shaped be where you came from. Associations are made toward certain areas, and you carry those associations with you. Further more, there's actually a strong relationship between where you live, and what you're opportunities are.
    I see. I wasn't picking at you though. I simply wanted to know the reasons. Because I haven't any ethnical blood from where I was born.

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    There's a cat poking through a roof!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    And is it important? It's the most important variable of your identity.
    What is my identity?
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    I think it can be more or less important as an aspect of identity, it can mean more or less to individuals and they may want to integrate class into their identity either endorsing or rejecting it or transcending it, either through class mobility, bohemian lifestyle or dropping out.

    On the other hand it could equally have an important influence on the identity which is attributed to an individual by others, which they have less choice about. Whether those attributions are limiting or delimiting has a lot to do with context though.

    I might start a thread on the seperate topic of social character though, I think this is something which transcends social class, you may be better or less able to conform to it more or less conscious of it depending on your class but I'm not entirely sure of that either. I think social character channels your personality typology too. It's a little like language, you have your own internal filters and words can have different nuances or personal meanings but in the end language itself is fundamentally a social construct, you'd be mad to have your own individual language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I think it can be more or less important as an aspect of identity, it can mean more or less to individuals and they may want to integrate class into their identity either endorsing or rejecting it or transcending it, either through class mobility, bohemian lifestyle or dropping out.

    On the other hand it could equally have an important influence on the identity which is attributed to an individual by others, which they have less choice about. Whether those attributions are limiting or delimiting has a lot to do with context though.
    Yes, I agree with this. Although, it's also interesting to observe how individuals that don't have information of your past except your present behavior can attribute diametrically different identities to your identity, as opposed to people that know you since you're a kid, thus already have some type of stereotypied boxes to define some of your characteristics. I've observed this tendency on my own skin, since I used to live in a relatively bad neighborhood when I was a small kid.
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