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    Quote Originally Posted by bighairything View Post
    They are designed to kill.
    So are samurai swords. Those are amazingly deadly. More so than a gun if you can use one.

    Samurai swords are fascinating. Is that disgusting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Should it be relaxed or is it working just right?
    Most people from the UK aren't going to have an informed opinion about how well gun control works, because it's a total non-issue here, politically. We don't talk or seem to care about it. I didn't know the statistics until I followed the link in this thread. Looking at those statistics, and thinking along the same lines as bighairything, I have to agree with him/her, that it would probably be best to keep things as they are in order to prevent an arms race. We have an arms race for knives in parts of London right now, and that's bad enough.

    Personally though, I do think that as that cat's already out of the bag, it should be legal to carry a knife for protection, for much the same reasons that some Americans are against gun control. I'm a scaredy cat and longed to take some kind of weapon with me when I rode the trains there alone, but I think even pepper spray is illegal here. I feel sorry for the one in five kids there who fears getting stabbed on their way to school or college more than they fear serving jail time for attempting to guard themselves against death or disfigurement. Teenagers are more at risk from crime than most groups and they know it - I know it, looking much younger than I am. I've not heard anyone else here express that view though, and I suspect it would be unpopular.

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    I support carrying a knife for protection, actually. I would rather have a knife than a gun. Well. Maybe.
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    Some statistics here, in case anyone's interested...

    Of particular interest to me is, on page 18, where we see the gun related homicide and other crime rising sharply up to the mid-90's, where gun laws were tightened up. Whereupon they dropped to about half the previous figures. Sorry if it's already been posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimony View Post
    I support carrying a knife for protection, actually. I would rather have a knife than a gun. Well. Maybe.
    Ever cut anything that is alive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    Ever cut anything that is alive?
    No, but then, I have never shot anything that is alive.

    If I really, really needed a knife I would use it. Same with a gun.
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    Personally I think the gun control laws are fine in the UK. Its an island so it can be regulated fairly easily and is. There aren't any roaming bands of tigers likely to eat UK denzines, so what purpose would it serve to flood the country with firearms?

    I probably fall into the catagory of most UK citizens, I've seen guns (at a distance) at airports being carried by the police, but I've never held, heard/saw one be fired or fired one myself.

    Its reassuring to know that someone getting shot anywhere in the UK has a high chance of being front page news due to the unusualness of the event.

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    My opinion has been changed. I do think UK gun control is okay. You guys seem fine with it at any rate, and it works.

    However, just because a culture does something different does not mean it is sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimony View Post
    So are samurai swords. Those are amazingly deadly. More so than a gun if you can use one.

    Samurai swords are fascinating. Is that disgusting?
    First up, the argument that a samurai sword is more deadly than a gun is a bit silly. Even in the right hands. No amount of skill is going to trump the range disadvantage.

    But that aside, context is important. Contrary to the ENFP stereotype, I'm a very pragmatically minded person, and I consider the chances of getting hurt or injured by a samurai sword as incredibly small in comparison to the chances of getting hurt or injured by a gun.

    This important fact makes it easier to indulge in the luxury of being fascinated by the beauty and engineering of a samurai sword than would be the case if I was somehow transported into thirteenth century feudal Japan. If I did find myself in thirteenth century feudal Japan, there's a chance my feelings about samurai swords might be more similar to my feeling about guns.

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    What about old guns? Guns people feel are a major part of history, and want to admire the mechanics/beauty of them?

    And like you said, context is important. The context involving with a samurai sword and a gun is important.
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