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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    The candidate who the base likes best is most likely NOT the candidate who have the best chance of winning the election.
    Unfortunately, the primaries are designed in a way that usually gives those people the candidacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    GW Bush was significantly more qualified than Sarah Palin could hope to be.

    I didn't like the dude either, but he's still way of out Palin's league.
    No, he was just a lot better at appearing more qualified. His ancestry got him into Yale, and he had a President for a daddy.

    All Palin has on her plate are some neighboring Russians and a bastard grandson.

    This doesn't make Bush any less of a tool than Palin though; he just came to us inside a nifty leather utility belt while Palin was left hammering away on her grandson's Fisher Price playset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    No, he was just a lot better at appearing more qualified. His ancestry got him into Yale, and he had a President for a daddy.

    All Palin has on her plate are some neighboring Russians and a bastard grandson.

    This doesn't make Bush any less of a tool than Palin though; he just came to us inside a nifty leather utility belt while Palin was left hammering away on her grandson's Fisher Price playset.
    lol fair enough; I certainly won't debate GW Bush's toolhood.

    I think both he and Palin were hopelessly unqualified for the presidency, but Palin to an even greater degree.

    Bush had at least been around politics his entire life and had a father who'd already done the job. That counts for something, at least in terms of where to go when you need guidance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    I think both he and Palin were hopelessly unqualified for the presidency, but Palin to an even greater degree.
    In some ways you could say that about every president after Bush sr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Unfortunately, the primaries are designed in a way that usually gives those people the candidacy.

    Often, yes. However, the GOP apparatchiks are the most adaptive organization in American politics. They hate to lose, and they hate Obama at this point, as well. If they do well in the 2010 midterms, I could see them falling in line behind an "electable" candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    In some ways you could say that about every president after Bush sr.

    Well, considering the level to which Palin is unqualified for the presidency, yes, you could say that she is more unqualified than Clinton, GW, and Obama (all those after Daddy Bush).

    But come on now...Clinton did a pretty fine job, and Obama is pulling his weight. No one is fully qualified for the presidency until they've actually become president anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    In some ways you could say that about every president after Bush sr.
    If you really looked hard enough and held the right perspective, you could say that about virtually anyone in any position of authority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Well, considering the level to which Palin is unqualified for the presidency, yes, you could say that she is more unqualified than Clinton, GW, and Obama (all those after Daddy Bush).

    But come on now...Clinton did a pretty fine job, and Obama is pulling his weight. No one is fully qualified for the presidency until they've actually become president anyway.

    I would disagree about both Clinton and Obama. Of course, I think that every POTUS from FDR on has done something worthy of impeachment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    But come on now...Clinton did a pretty fine job, and Obama is pulling his weight. No one is fully qualified for the presidency until they've actually become president anyway.
    Clinton was better than Bush in many ways...I'll give you that. Although both were incompetent in their own ways when it came to military use overseas.

    However, in the grand scheme of things, Bush sr was probably the last real president we had; an actual politician with considerable experience and competence in political affairs(Bush sr. for example was head of the CIA, so he was very much an inside man).

    After that, now it just seems that being a boyish media personality counts more than actual competence. In the last election, political inexperience was actually seen as a positive rather than a negative. Since the 1930's or so(definately since JFK), the office of president has basically degenerated more and more into the office of America's #1 celebrity.

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