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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Stars View Post
    Or maybe he was just an attention whore, or parroting his parents' beliefs, which is a hell of a lot more likely than having an actual full understanding of anything political at his age.
    Understanding is not an act.
    Least of all a political act.

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    A stronghold backs policy.

    Understanding is not subject to policy.
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    And your point is...?
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    So the kid does the right thing but it might not be the right thing cause he was told to do it so it could be over egging it? Imagine if that kind of thinking was applied on a wider scale.

    No more awards for excellence for a start...
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Does the kids father have the same ideals?... Maybe the kid is just parroting them...

    It would be interesting to see the voting age drop to 10, just to see who could be elected, what bills get passed, and what the overall outcome for the nation would be! ...lol.
    ... They say that knowledge is free, and to truly acquire wisdom always comes with a price... Well then,... That will be $10, please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spamtar View Post
    I suspect the point P was making is that his [the kid's] family/church/social networks are prolly more pro gay marriage, thus as far as school he was being unconventional but for his primary social life was likely conventional or conforming to their values.

    Like some kids who call themselves unconventional in high school but are really just strictly conventional to their social sect (i.e. some Goth/Punk cliques).
    This is true. Take it from the emo kid song:

    "I'm an emo kid
    Nonconforming as can be
    You'd be nonconforming too
    If you looked just like me"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Stars View Post
    Or maybe he was just an attention whore, or parroting his parents' beliefs, which is a hell of a lot more likely than having an actual full understanding of anything political at his age.
    Agreed. I think the parents or the media brainwashed him. Little kids trying to be a cool adult pretending to understand adult things. It's cute.

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    I never said the pledge as a kid and nobody ever cared enough to put ME on tv! *pouts*

    ... though I suppose the reason "it seems like a rather pointless and symbolic thing to do" probably doesn't carry the same weight with the media

    *sigh* a total sign of society slipping... now children disobey for media attention instead of just for the joy of being bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype View Post
    It would be interesting to see the voting age drop to 10, just to see who could be elected, what bills get passed, and what the overall outcome for the nation would be! ...lol.
    Ugh, no.

    Children aren't experienced enough and/or have too strong an impression from their immediate family to form their own opinions properly.

    Adults are bad enough even without those factors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    I don't think you really understand my point.

    I'm refuting this notion where you are trying to tie in an article that says, 'gays are not a priviledged victim group' to assuming that that was the motivation of a 10 years old kid.
    No actually that's not my point; which btw is more directed at those adults who foolishly get all sentimental over his action, and think he's making a really bold stand for a noble cause.

    I wouldn't doubt the kid geniunely believes in what he's doing. If that's the case, then that it's commendable on some level. However, the fact remains that his actions and stance just feeds into the common illusion that gays are a special victim group, when in fact they are not. Of course as a 10 year old, he most likely has no idea that is actually the case. I'm not blaming him for that.

    However, us adults should be more aware of that, and aware how much of this is really a charade. And for his parents to parade their son to the media over something like this also shows some irresponsibility on their part as well.

    And my reference to the dramatization of Herbet Norkus, the Hitler Youth killed by Communists in 1932, was to help show the dangers of politically exploiting the deeds of children. I'll say again, Norkus was actually killed for his beliefs - which is far worse than being called a "gaywad" by all measures.

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