By the way, I'm starting to doubt my earlier benefit of the doubt that you did not belong in the Cult of Paul...
OK. That's why you're a libertarian and I'm a populist.I think that majority rule comes dangerously close to mob rule. The U.S. government isn't supposed to do much "ruling" in the first place.
Straw man argument. Never said everything elected officials do is right. I took exception to your "Americans..." "... in spite of their government" line. Government is not an entity separate from the people. It is actually made up of American citizens elected by other American citizens to represent their interests. What happens from that point on can be supported or opposed, and I've certainly done my fair share of both.Why is that? Just because someone gets elected doesn't mean what they do is right. It doesn't even mean that what they do is excusable on the grounds that many or most Americans desired the action.
Heh, you don't know me at all. I go after my own side for this MUCH more than I go after Libbies. (sorry, guess "for the love of Friedman" isn't the best way to get me to stop doing something)...Except libertarian ones? Or ones who want to express their beliefs through the ballot box with candidates you don't respect?
Correct. I don't see what political beliefs have to do with personal identity. Personal values, absolutely. Personal opinion, A-OK by me. But personal identity? And I don't understand the second half of your point.So you want people to have political beliefs that have nothing to do with their personal identity? Or are you trying to say that you are against political peacocking? I am against that, but because you end up with what most liberals and conservatives do; i.e., "I disagree with this, so it should be illegal."
Everyone has a spotty record! So did the founders, I remind you. What is this... if ya can't beat 'em, call yourself a cosmotarian and complain about everyone else (Ron Paul being the shining exception)?All those people were American, and all had spotty records at best. Woodrow Wilson was particularly terrible.
I actually have completely mixed feelings on Wilson. I like a number of measures championed by the progressive movement that became law under his watch, but I think most of them had more to do with the moment than the man. I personally go back and forth over Wilsonian internationalism. I tend to be more pragmatic than ideological on international policy and consider most international issues on a case-by-case basis.