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    They gave Obama the NPP as a consolation prize for losing the 2016 Olympics to Brazil.

    The NPP jumped the shark when they included Arafat in that group. But an argument can be made that at least Arafat had actually DONE something...Led some group...

    Obama? He can read a teleprompter like nobody's business.

    That "fresh breeze" of Obama is going to wind up actually being a fart in a church.


    How is all that Hope and Change working out...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post


    How is all that Hope and Change working out...?
    I changed my underwear today. That's progress .

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    The only people complaining more than right-wingers over this are the Taliban and Hamas, who are making the exact same arguments against the President getting the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Ah that's great.

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    I think there is a cuteness factor to Obama receiving the Nobel Peace Price.
    He's a symbol for peace in theory after all meant to unify race, politics and the world by symbolically existing. Whether he's done anything valid or not is beside the point I think, the intent is the symbolism. Why get worked up by this unless there are people with less of a public profile that have done outstanding things that deserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    I think there is a cuteness factor to Obama receiving the Nobel Peace Price.
    He's a symbol for peace in theory after all meant to unify race, politics and the world by symbolically existing. Whether he's done anything valid or not is beside the point I think, the intent is the symbolism. Why get worked up by this unless there are people with less of a public profile that have done outstanding things that deserve it.
    But there are, and that is not the point. The prize is for achievements, not possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    The only people complaining more than right-wingers over this are the Taliban and Hamas, who are making the exact same arguments against the President getting the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Ah that's great.
    Obviously if you are right wing you are the same as the Taliban, thanks for pointing it out. Srsly, good point there.

    It is not split along political lines. Many people aren't for "maybe he will do stuff later" thing. Like the SNL skit said, the left should be more upset about his non-record than the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    Obviously if you are right wing you are the same as the Taliban, thanks for pointing it out. Srsly, good point there.
    It's their turn to be the America-hating terrorists! The Left had to do it for 8 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    It is not split along political lines. Many people aren't for "maybe he will do stuff later" thing. Like the SNL skit said, the left should be more upset about his non-record than the right.
    The Norwegian parliament that picks the Nobel committee members favor Obama's positions on nuclear disarmament and diplomacy. They think being a Nobel laureate will help him on the world stage, but they were open about that.

    Isn't that good for us?

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    No, it just looks stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post

    The Norwegian parliament that picks the Nobel committee members favor Obama's positions on nuclear disarmament and diplomacy. They think being a Nobel laureate will help him on the world stage, but they were open about that.

    Isn't that good for us?
    To be honest, I think it handcuffs him in terms of taking aggressive stances on certain foreign policy decisions. If Iran requires intervention, it makes him look bad. If he goes through with an Afghanistan troop surge, it makes him look bad. If he doesn't close Gitmo soon, it makes him look bad. Just as you're supposed to freeze your private assets [yes, I think Cheney didn't do this, if I recall correctly] upon taking office so as not to have personal incentives, you shouldn't really be eligible or accept this kind of thing because an American interest may not align with a Norwegian interest, and it just looks bad.

    To be real, the whole fiasco makes the committee look worse than anybody else. It's not really Obama's fault. They've devalued what should be a prestigious award given to tremendous humanitarian accomplishments, and made themselves a sort of a joke and their award is now recognized as being largely politicized. And he doesn't need any help on the world stage, he's the most powerful person in the world.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    No, it just looks stupid.
    Is it stupid if it helps American foreign-policy even just a tad? Many on the Right and Left are in agreement about most of our broad foreign-policy goals.

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