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    Default Johns Hopkins student kills apparent burglar with sword

    And they say fencing serves no practical purpose!

    (CNN) -- A Johns Hopkins University student killed an apparent burglar with a samurai sword after discovering the man in his garage, police said Tuesday.

    Baltimore, Maryland, police received a phone call shortly before 1:30 a.m. Tuesday about a suspicious person, and an off-duty officer arrived at the scene with campus security, city police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said.

    When authorities arrived, they heard calls for help and for police, he said. They discovered a suspected burglar with a severed left hand and severe lacerations to his upper body, Guglielmi said.

    The suspect died at the scene, he said.

    The man had entered a home where several Johns Hopkins students lived, Guglielmi said. Four students, one armed with a samurai sword, had confronted the suspect in the garage.

    The man "lunged" at the students, and the student with the sword defended himself, severing the man's left hand and cutting his upper body, Guglielmi said.

    Johns Hopkins student kills apparent burglar with sword - CNN.com

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    I wonder if he was trying to steal that very samurai sword...

    It ^ would be a dictionary definition of irony

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    That's hardcore.
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    Was the burglar armed?

    If not, did four people really need to kill the burglar instead of pinning him down and waiting for the police to get there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ergophobe View Post
    Was the burglar armed?

    If not, did four people really need to kill the burglar instead of pinning him down and waiting for the police to get there?
    Legally, there is no onus for flight if you are in your home or place of business. If the person attacks you, you are free to use lethal force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Legally, there is no onus for flight if you are in your home or place of business. If the person attacks you, you are free to use lethal force.
    That's just simply not true. It varies state-to-state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ergophobe View Post
    Was the burglar armed?

    If not, did four people really need to kill the burglar instead of pinning him down and waiting for the police to get there?
    I, for one, disagree. This is a burglar who has invaded someone's home that we are talking about, not a housecat Assuming or not assuming that they are unarmed could make a big difference in how alive you are when your neighbors report the break in to the police.
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    Makes sense but the question wasn't a legal one. I am curious as to whether the burglar was actually armed and whether this extreme response of the students was in fact warranted. Their house was broken into on a previous occasion recently and two laptops and a play station were stolen. They were clearly mad about it.

    On the subject of legality:
    The attack would be hard to disprove since the only witnesses present were all friends of the swordsman. We only know that they said he lunged at them. Did he in fact lunge at them or freak out when he was surrounded by four of them, one of whom was armed?

    Of course, it's certainly possible that he was armed. Regardless, it would be terrifying to have someone break into your home.

    We don't know what actually happened and I'm just raising some questions surrounding the loss of a human life...

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy View Post
    I, for one, disagree. This is a burglar who has invaded someone's home that we are talking about, not a housecat Assuming or not assuming that they are unarmed could make a big difference in how alive you are when your neighbors report the break in to the police.
    So you assume the worst and attack the burglar until you kill him?

    Some things to consider:
    1. If the burglar had a gun, the sword would have made a small difference. The person would have been dead regardless and be called foolhardy for going out and trying to confront an armed burglar.
    2. If the burglar did not have a gun, four people could have pinned him down and waited for the police
    3. The person, if an experienced swordsman, could have injured him and not killed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blank View Post
    That's just simply not true. It varies state-to-state.
    Castle Doctrine in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Some states do not have Castle Doctrine enshrined in law, but if someone unlawfully enters your home AND attacks you, you are justified in using force.
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