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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    And they're usually slimy by snack/mealtime, having been carried around to the park or wherever I've been. It's frequently 90-100 degrees here, and I spend a lot of time outdoors with the kids. I still take fruits/veggies with me, I just need to, you know, refrigerate them, like I said in my post. Gel icepacks are a beautiful thing, but it's definitely more trouble than plunking a few quarters into a machine and pushing some buttons. And fresh fruits and vegetables are more expensive than crappy packs of crackers or cookies.
    I work in a grocery store and I find that snack foods are actually more expensive items than healthier alternatives, particularly if you buy "name brand" junk food.

    It's usually people who buy the healthiest, least processed stuff that have the lowest grocery bills. Of course, I'm not including organic foods in that, because of course organic foods are more expensive.

    I don't have a car, I'm a college student, and I frequently carry convenience foods with me. I find that apples hold up well if they aren't sliced, and veggies usually don't get slimy if you don't cart them around with you all day long. Usually they'll keep for a few hours.

    Some healthy alternatives that are not fresh veggies/fruit include trail mix, sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, various nuts, and of course dried fruit. There's also cereal bars and similar items that can be alternatives to candy.

    Crackers really aren't bad for you, either. If I'm faced with a snack machine I usually get crackers or a granola bar or nuts.

    I'm not saying I never eat junk food, because that would be a huge lie, but I know from experience that healthy snacks are not that expensive or difficult to carry with you.

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    The obese die earlier than others so they will avoid all the health costs of old age, so in the long run cost the taxpayer less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    The obese die earlier than others so they will avoid all the health costs of old age, so in the long run cost the taxpayer less.
    Yes, but there's a very close corelation between obesity and diabetes, and a diabetes epidemic is going to cost us an incredible amount, both in terms of helping their condition and the limitations on their ability to contribute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Yes, but there's a very close corelation between obesity and diabetes, and a diabetes epidemic is going to cost us an incredible amount, both in terms of helping their condition and the limitations on their ability to contribute.
    Those goddamn diabetics costing me money! :steam:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    Those goddamn diabetics costing me money! :steam:
    Hey, man.. you talked about money. And frankly, I don't think you can argue that being a diabetic is an enjoyable life choice, so it's not all about my interests.
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    What is the proven cause of diabetes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    What is the proven cause of diabetes?
    There is not an exact proven cause yet. Only very strong correlations. But then, in science, things are never really proven as much as they are inductively strong.

    We're talking about Type 2 here.
    Diabetes mellitus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    So essentially the obese aren't proven guilty of the crime of costing you more money?

    I'll assume their innocence then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    So essentially the obese aren't proven guilty of the crime of costing you more money?

    I'll assume their innocence then.
    Then you might as well think that cigarettes don't increase the risk of cancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Then you might as well think that cigarettes don't increase the risk of cancer.
    No, smoking is a behaviour, not a characteristic. The equivilent is saying that bad breath and yellow teeth cause cancer.
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