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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    No excuses. We didn't give Bush any, and Obama won't get any, either.
    I wouldn't fault a politician for being pragmatic. The first 2 years of his presidency will most likely to focused on the economy and health care, as they should be. Cleaning up Bush-era policy disasters takes time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I wouldn't fault a politician for being pragmatic. The first 2 years of his presidency will most likely to focused on the economy and health care, as they should be. Cleaning up Bush-era policy disasters takes time.

    I will. The president can't fix the economy, and health care is going to be a boondoggle. Cleaning up bad policy should be first on his agenda. Particularly the things he can fix with the stroke of a pen.
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    Yes, theoretical abstract shit should be so much more important than the lives of real, actual people.

    Not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Yes, theoretical abstract shit should be so much more important than the lives of real, actual people.

    Not.

    What are you talking about? Illegal wiretaps, unconstitutional imprisonment of people, and a federal budget deficit that is threatening to spiral completely out of control aren't important? They affect the whole country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I wouldn't fault a politician for being pragmatic. The first 2 years of his presidency will most likely to focused on the economy and health care, as they should be. Cleaning up Bush-era policy disasters takes time.

    BTW, way to be a hypocrite. You were singing a different tune about domestic spying ten months ago.

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    ajblaise: They claim they won't eavesdrop....geezus.

    I guess satellite imagery is bound to become more of a mainstay in the surveillance world. I just hope their program won't be ridiculously extensive. Like spying on anti-war Mommy protest groups..
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    BTW, way to be a hypocrite. You were singing a different tune about domestic spying ten months ago.

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...tml#post364891


    ajblaise: They claim they won't eavesdrop....geezus.

    I guess satellite imagery is bound to become more of a mainstay in the surveillance world. I just hope their program won't be ridiculously extensive. Like spying on anti-war Mommy protest groups..
    It's not what he should be spending his political capitol on right now. I'd give him by the end of his first term to reform or reverse a lot of the neoconservative and hawkish policies left over from Bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    It's not what he should be spending his political capitol on right now. I'd give him by the end of his first term to reform or reverse a lot of the neoconservative and hawkish policies left over from Bush.

    Why not? If Bush was so bad (and I think we agree that he was), why wouldn't you first fix the worst things about your predecessor's administration? You'd think that he would address the issues on which he is weak, like the deficit. The Dems also have some scandals to smooth over.

    And it's "political capital."
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Why not? If Bush was so bad (and I think we agree that he was), why wouldn't you first fix the worst things about your predecessor's administration? You'd think that he would address the issues on which he is weak, like the deficit. The Dems also have some scandals to smooth over.

    And it's "political capital."
    Looks like he's putting pragmaticism over ideology.

    When the recession is over, liberal foreign policy reform will probably get more attention.

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    The "Birther Movement" is a thinly-veiled attempt to pander to racism in this country. There is no validity to the argument that his birth certificate is not authentic. It is a shameful waste of time for members of Congress to even consider during this time of economic and healthcare crises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by statuesquechica View Post
    The "Birther Movement" is a thinly-veiled attempt to pander to racism in this country. There is no validity to the argument that his birth certificate is not authentic. It is a shameful waste of time for members of Congress to even consider during this time of economic and healthcare crises.

    Personally, I think it's great if Congress is distracted. 90% of the time, the less they do, the better.
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