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    Nice to see that some people have opinions, good for you.
    I don't really have a political orientation. But unlike some, I do not take offense for you guys calling me a nazi, fascist or whatever. I know i'm not a nazi, at least. They killed people for other reasons. Reasons which I think were ridiculous.

    I'm a little unsure about the fascist part, though... But i'm not right-wing. Neither am I a communist.
    I'm more about doing what needs to be done. Call it a twisted world view or whatever you want, insult me all you can, slander me in public and burn me on a cross, I don't care what you think as long as you cannot convince me to think otherwise with a thing called good arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Yeah, I know "Fox News" but they have the sources, it appears to be real.


    Obama's Science Czar Considered Forced Abortions, Sterilization as Population Growth Solutions

    John Holdren, director of the White House's Office of Science and Technology Policy, considered compulsory abortions and other Draconian measures to shrink the human population in a 1977 science textbook.

    By Joseph Abrams

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    Tuesday, July 21, 2009
    (More at link, including PDF of the textbook source)
    First off, stop acting like you have to defend fox. The only people who knock their credibility as a news organization over all the other news stations are just bias dumb asses trapped inside their own ass as the ultimate circle of dumb assery.

    Second, it's plain as day what the purpose behind all these Russian Czars are. they are nothing more than way to get around having any accountability or transparency, giving great power to the oval office since they only answer to the president and neither Congress nor anyone else can say anything about it. They don't even feel the need to speak to or answer questions from the press. With "former" self proclaimed devout socialists and communists being found in their ranks, it paints a clear picture of the agenda at hand. I'd hazard to guess that very few of you know anything about some of the extreme views held by a number of these appointed Czars.

    And why the f*** do we have Czars? It's like i woke up one day and suddenly I'm in an alternate universe where the United States of America is trying to emulate the soviets. Just wtf...

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    I would have to disagree with finding Fox to be a reputable news source due to their tendency to get facts incorrect, repeatedly.

    Before making a decision I would also prefer to look at the actual source (the textbook) rather than rely on the interpretation by the Heritage Foundation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by statuesquechica View Post
    I would have to disagree with finding Fox to be a reputable news source due to their tendency to get facts incorrect, repeatedly.

    Before making a decision I would also prefer to look at the actual source (the textbook) rather than rely on the interpretation by the Heritage Foundation.
    I've seen Cnn, CNBC, MSNBC, and all the rest get things wrong repeatedly as well. It happens with all of them, and if you actually compare them fairly you'll see there isn't any really difference aside from the fact that some are owned by large energy companies that are in bed with the government (hint: NBC). Anyway, I don't need to say any more. Dumb assery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    First off, stop acting like you have to defend fox. The only people who knock their credibility as a news organization over all the other news stations are just bias dumb asses trapped inside their own ass as the ultimate circle of dumb assery.
    LOL, say hello to a dumbass then!

    I am not a right winger. I am not a conservative. I don't think any news source is unbiased, but goodness Fox is the very worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    I've seen Cnn, CNBC, MSNBC, and all the rest get things wrong repeatedly as well. It happens with all of them, and if you actually compare them fairly you'll see there isn't any really difference aside from the fact that some are owned by large energy companies that are in bed with the government (hint: NBC).
    I agree with you, most major news sources in this country are tied to corporations and therefore their news is biased. I prefer to get my news from a variety of news sources, here and abroad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    LOL, say hello to a dumbass then!

    I am not a right winger. I am not a conservative. I don't think any news source is unbiased, but goodness Fox is the very worst.
    *Continuing to talk because i actually respect heart*

    Again, they're not any different. All the other networks have given such biased reporting in the past year that an honest sentient being cannot say that they are somehow on a higher pedestal. MSNBC holding green week specials and commercials to sell a green agenda and news stories that align with it without hardly anyone recognizing that they are owned by General Electric which is heavily invested in the progression of the green movement and whos executives are on economic and environmental advisory boards for the president himself doesn't seem like a conflict of interest that horribly skews the news they present on such subjects to you?

    Fox gets things wrong and it has its biases like all the rest. You simply pick who you agree with more.

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    Well, I don't trust any of the news. Because of the corporation thing already brought up.

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    Is Holdren incredibly qualified for the science and technology post? Yes.
    Is his past views he had on overpopulation in the 60s and 70s going to somehow become Obama policy? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Well, I don't trust any of the news. Because of the corporation thing already brought up.
    And lets not get into how some news stations freely broadcast entire propaganda pieces created by the white house for public consumption. Yea, that's pure unbiased objective news reporting right there...

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